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Re: Most competitive state

Postby silverheart7 on Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:24 pm

Oh, New York seems incredibly competitive to me. Can't wait for states! My first year, I'm going as an alternate.
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Re: Most competitive state

Postby PacificGoldenPlover on Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:06 pm

bentley8 wrote:CA?

OH?

Pbly one of the two

SoCal div B definnitely (I think Carmel Valley was only ten points away from Muscatel).
div C, maybe not so much.
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Re: Most competitive state

Postby lakersfan2012 on Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:17 pm

The WI states are also fairly competitive. In the past five years (outside of 2011) the state score have always been decided by around 10 points. The two years I made nationals (2010 and 2012) we won off a tie breaker and by three points respectively
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Re: Most competitive state

Postby foreverphysics on Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:23 pm

AL's Div B first and second place team this year were separated by 3 points. Not saying that AL's competitive, but maybe we're a bit more competitive than most people give us credit for.
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Re: Most competitive state

Postby Slarik on Tue Apr 03, 2012 2:32 pm

foreverphysics wrote:AL's Div B first and second place team this year were separated by 3 points. Not saying that AL's competitive, but maybe we're a bit more competitive than most people give us credit for.

Just saying, Maryland's first and second teams in BOTH B and C divisions were separated by ONE point.

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Re: Most competitive state

Postby clairebear7 on Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:27 am

I would say
1.New York
2. Ohio
3. Norcal

Well I am Norcal so that may just be the pressure.
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Re: Most competitive state

Postby alecfxl on Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:27 am

New York and Ohio certainly are highly competitive with multiple teams having made Nationals and placing in top 10.
However, if you only look at closeness of scores that determine who go to Nationals, Wisconsin has to be way up there. The old scoring system utilized up until 2008 didn't really allow for a blowout and since, it's been very close.

2008: A questionable DQ caused a team to lose by 8pts when it would've won by 3.
2009: Scores aren't online anymore but top 2 teams combined to miss medals in a total of 2 events?
2010: Tied score with tie-breaker being # of golds
2011: An unexplained tier 2 in an event and a couple of building events with "home field advantage" or else scores would've been just about tied again
2012: 3 point differential.

I doubt the competition has been that close in any other state in recent years.
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Re: Most competitive state

Postby French_Toast on Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:09 pm

Ohio C will be interesting this year. Solon should win it all unless they really slack off, but Centerville, Mentor, and Chardon were all on pretty much the same level at regionals/WLS invitational time. Can't wait to see how that plays out.
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Re: Most competitive state

Postby FullMetalMaple on Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:12 pm

alecfxl wrote:I doubt the competition has been that close in any other state in recent years.

Not that Wisconsin isn't competitive, but Kansas is probably about the same level. When I was a freshman, I think my school missed second by two points - which would have gotten us nats. That happened to another school in division B, too, at some point.

Here, it's completely anyone's game.

EDIT: Actually, I checked the scores from that year - we missed second by six points. The year before, we missed first by two.

Either way, it's competitive here.
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Re: Most competitive state

Postby zyzzyva980 on Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:19 pm

I figure there should be six to seven teams in the mix at Kansas, all with the potential to win state. (Some with better odds in my mind than others, but you never know what can happen- East proved that last year.) Anyone's game is right- should be fun.
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Re: Most competitive state

Postby FullMetalMaple on Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:36 pm

Fun? Maybe for you guys, but - well, just look at my location. :P The way Kansas is, you never know if a team will run away with a surprise win, but you don't know if you'll be that team, either. I guess we'll know soon enough.
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Re: Most competitive state

Postby JKrafsur on Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:29 pm

zyzzyva98 wrote:I figure there should be six to seven teams in the mix at Kansas, all with the potential to win state. (Some with better odds in my mind than others, but you never know what can happen- East proved that last year.) Anyone's game is right- should be fun.


It may seem a little biased, but id say the same for Division B out here. Div C is pretty much locked up and at best 2 teams are capable of winning, but especially if we get 2 spots at nationals IF somebody drops, there are really like 5-6 teams in the running.
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Re: Most competitive state

Postby geminicross on Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:11 pm

Georgia was surprisingly close this year.

The difference between 1st and 2nd
was less than 10 pts. We're of course still not very competitive on a State scale,
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Re: Most competitive state

Postby LoopQuantumGravity on Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:15 pm

If "competitive" is defined as having most rivalry between schools at State, Idaho could qualify. There are some schools who always do well at State and HATE each other. One of them usually won, and the other was obsessed about beating them. Also, since my school won last year, the former champion hates us too.

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Re: Most competitive state

Postby spikeytomato on Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:36 pm

socal!
Troy pretty much elevates the entire region, with 8 national championships
North Hollywood is really good too
it's just that Troy is so good they always get edged out
their teams pretty much hate each other
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