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Re: Protein Modeling C

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Starapollo1 wrote:I'm having incredible difficulties isolating the two polypeptides we are supposed to model... Upon going to the the prebuild page: [urlhttp://cbm.msoe.edu/includes/jmol/SOJmols/2012PreBuild.html[/url], I tried "restrict chain A" and "restrict chain B" along with multiple variations of the command... and I can't seem to get it to work... the answer is probably really simple but I just can't seem to figure it out.
First, the command to restrict to just chain A would be "restrict *a"; Jmol doesn't know the word "chain".

Second, "restrict" gets rid of everything that isn't included in your argument: if you restrict to chain A and then restrict to chain B, there won't be anything left – you got rid of everything that wasn't chain A, then everything that wasn't chain B, so you'll end up with just an empty screen. If you want chain A and chain B onscreen at the same time, you'll need "restrict *a or *b".
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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Where do you find information about the "protein Story" we are supposed to illustrate? I've read the article about Caspases and found a few unique structures by laying around with jmol, but i feel like I'm missing something because I can't correlate these structures to anything.
(For instance, the molecule pictured alongside the protein in the Caspase-3 graphic on the PDB page)
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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Phenylethylamine wrote:
Starapollo1 wrote:I'm having incredible difficulties isolating the two polypeptides we are supposed to model... Upon going to the the prebuild page: [urlhttp://cbm.msoe.edu/includes/jmol/SOJmols/2012PreBuild.html[/url], I tried "restrict chain A" and "restrict chain B" along with multiple variations of the command... and I can't seem to get it to work... the answer is probably really simple but I just can't seem to figure it out.
First, the command to restrict to just chain A would be "restrict *a"; Jmol doesn't know the word "chain".

Second, "restrict" gets rid of everything that isn't included in your argument: if you restrict to chain A and then restrict to chain B, there won't be anything left – you got rid of everything that wasn't chain A, then everything that wasn't chain B, so you'll end up with just an empty screen. If you want chain A and chain B onscreen at the same time, you'll need "restrict *a or *b".
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ironchef48 wrote:Where do you find information about the "protein Story" we are supposed to illustrate? I've read the article about Caspases and found a few unique structures by laying around with jmol, but i feel like I'm missing something because I can't correlate these structures to anything.
(For instance, the molecule pictured alongside the protein in the Caspase-3 graphic on the PDB page)
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I had a question on the invite that had to do with Nicholas Volker 2009...
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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akatsuki9 wrote:I had a question on the invite that had to do with Nicholas Volker 2009...
That's hardly surprising, given that his story was the first thing posted on the CBM site.
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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I have a question regarding Chain A. In the vizualization, residues 207-225 are selected as part of an alpha helix. However, in the image for the sequence, there is a gap at residue 221, and a second helix that enxtends to 226.
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Also, in the vizualization, the area in question doesn't really look like a helix: it just happens to be colored that way when i do "select helix... color red". I'm color-coding my Toober for the secondary structures, so my question is, do I go with the jmol or the PDB sequence? I'm thinking the jmol personally, since that's officially in the rules, but I wanted to see what other people think and if anyone else has seen this.
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EASTstroudsburg13 wrote:I have a question regarding Chain A. In the vizualization, residues 207-225 are selected as part of an alpha helix. However, in the image for the sequence, there is a gap at residue 221, and a second helix that enxtends to 226.
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Also, in the vizualization, the area in question doesn't really look like a helix: it just happens to be colored that way when i do "select helix... color red". I'm color-coding my Toober for the secondary structures, so my question is, do I go with the jmol or the PDB sequence? I'm thinking the jmol personally, since that's officially in the rules, but I wanted to see what other people think and if anyone else has seen this.
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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I have submitted an FAQ to soinc.org and am currently anticipating a response. However, I'm leaning toward coloring the helix based on jmol, and folding the part that's not really a helix the way it is on the visualization.

On a side note, I folded chain B this weekend. I felt accomplished. :mrgreen:
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Chain B is actually the easier chain to fold.
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