Sand Timer Task

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Re: Sand Timer Task

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If the sand timer triggers the next task before it is done, will it be penalized as a parallel?
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Dark Sabre wrote:I would assume that "after the sand timer has started" refers to any time after the first grain of sand falls.

I'm fairly sure that they intend for you to not use electricity at any point after the start of the sand timer. Time and clarifications will tell, but that's what I think they mean for you to do.
Hmm. That seems a strange thing to do. The final task is easy enough to begin without electricity, so all that the rule really accomplishes is to make everybody do the timer last. I wonder what the rationale is.

ETA: maggymay, I ordered mine August 31, too, and they arrived today.
Haha, the rationale is to make our lives miserable :lol: ... This is such a delicate task to pull off that I don't know if I would put it next to last. That's a ton of points you're losing if the timer fails.
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paronomasia wrote:If the sand timer triggers the next task before it is done, will it be penalized as a parallel?
No, the timing for the sand bonus will end once the task immediately following the sand bonus begins. In other words you will not be penalized for a parallel task, you will only get bonus points up until the next task triggers.
paronomasia wrote: Haha, the rationale is to make our lives miserable :lol: ... This is such a delicate task to pull off that I don't know if I would put it next to last. That's a ton of points you're losing if the timer fails.
The sand bonus is not actually that difficult, I mean it's been a part of Mission Possible B for the past few years and if middle schoolers can successfully pull it off (to a high degree of precision) there is no excuse for high schoolers not to.
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Re: Sand Timer Task

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So I have been reading rule M carefully, and I guess it is save to say that "electricity must not be used for further actions after the sand timer has started" could be interpreted as "electricity must not be used for further tasks after the sand timer has started"

Am I correct in my thinking on this?
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Re: Sand Timer Task

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zcshiner wrote:So I have been reading rule M carefully, and I guess it is save to say that "electricity must not be used for further actions after the sand timer has started" could be interpreted as "electricity must not be used for further tasks after the sand timer has started"

Am I correct in my thinking on this?
I'm pretty sure they meant actions. As in, you cannot use electricity to do anything after the sand timer has started. That's my interpretation.
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Further tasks, further actions, that's pretty much the same thing? Just don't use electricity for anything in the chain of events following the sand timer. But I guess "actions" also includes nonofficial/nonscoring actions. So basically, after sand timer, no new electric things, period.
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Re: Sand Timer Task

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Hmm, so say I used the sand coming from the sand timer to spin a "water" wheel for my circular to linear task. The sand timer bonus would stop as soon as the wheel started spinning, right?
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Re: Sand Timer Task

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paronomasia wrote:Hmm, so say I used the sand coming from the sand timer to spin a "water" wheel for my circular to linear task. The sand timer bonus would stop as soon as the wheel started spinning, right?
That would not be circular to linear. That would be linear to circular.
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Re: Sand Timer Task

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So just to clarify, if there was a motor running from a previous task, my group would not receive points for the Sand Timer task because electricity was still being used?
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As long as the motor isn't contributing anything anymore once the timer starts, it should be fine. Things left running from previous tasks don't count as "further actions".
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Re: Sand Timer Task

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questionguy wrote:So just to clarify, if there was a motor running from a previous task, my group would not receive points for the Sand Timer task because electricity was still being used?
I submitted that question a couple of months ago, and the answer was that you could leave motors running or have the device shut them off and the sand timer would still score. Of course, the answer is not up on the FAQ and your regional people are not likely to take your word for it, so you should contact them, too.
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