Mousetrap Vehicle B

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby PaulJ » November 18th, 2011, 12:01 am

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby lenkagamine » November 26th, 2011, 2:22 pm

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lenkagamine wrote:Thanks! I missed that section. I still can't find a good mousetrap though... mine is weak and can't support the weight of the arm. Any suggestions?


Two options, first try to find some stronger mousetraps. Generic ones that come in kits and such are probably weaker than name brand ones you can purchase at hardware stores. Second, I imagine your arm is too heavy, you want it to be as light and stiff as possible. Also, the length of the arm can seriously affect the vehicle. You might want to shorten the arm. What are you using for a material and how long is it?

Thanks for the help! I was able to figure out the arm problem now... but now i have this other problem... My back axle's completely crooked!! *sigh* oh well, time to build another one, i guess.
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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby illusionist » November 27th, 2011, 6:36 am

Build a whole new vehicle?! You should try to design your vehicle so that you can just swap out parts. But the best solution for a crooked axle is to simply replace it. There's no point in trying to make it work.

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby Saje_Willis » November 29th, 2011, 7:02 am

Does any wone know how to set up the trigger and which way its suppose to land on the front of the chasis :ugeek:

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby Saje_Willis » November 29th, 2011, 7:08 am

Where are u placing the paper clip at the front or the back of the chasis

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby illusionist » November 29th, 2011, 12:15 pm

Saje_Willis wrote:Where are u placing the paper clip at the front or the back of the chasis

I do not have the rules on me, but if the rules do not prohibit the placement of the paper clip, then it's up to you. But please read the rules first. There is no best place to put it. If your vehicle is consistently going past the point, then it would be better to maybe put the paperclip in the back.
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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby mousetrapfury » November 29th, 2011, 1:24 pm

what is the best brand and type of mousetrap (HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

please post link here for website it is sold on :?

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby illusionist » November 29th, 2011, 1:47 pm

The two most popular brands are Tomcat and Victor. You can find both of those in many stores such as Walmart, Home Depot, Lowes, Meijer, etc.
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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby mousetrapfury » December 3rd, 2011, 6:44 am

thanks
also do you know how to make a good sighting device because on battery buggy last year we only got 4th place because we had a terable sighting device so i am really worried this year :D

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby illusionist » December 3rd, 2011, 4:06 pm

Well, what we did:
Attach two toothpicks on your vehicle, one at front, and one at back. Then we used string to mark center of the track width. Then, just align the toothpicks to the string (this is assuming that your vehicle travels perfectly straight).

If not, you can use the side scope-thingy from a telescope and simply attach that to your vehicle, then use a marker or something to mark the middle of the track width at the finish line. Then, just look through the sight and line your vehicle up with the marker.
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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby mtheleman » December 5th, 2011, 12:39 pm

illusionist wrote:
Saje_Willis wrote:Where are u placing the paper clip at the front or the back of the chasis

I do not have the rules on me, but if the rules do not prohibit the placement of the paper clip, then it's up to you. But please read the rules first. There is no best place to put it. If your vehicle is consistently going past the point, then it would be better to maybe put the paperclip in the back.

You are required to have it on the front. I thought this was a good idea until reading the rules again.
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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby mousetrapfury » December 6th, 2011, 1:59 pm

illusionist wrote:Well, what we did:
Attach two toothpicks on your vehicle, one at front, and one at back. Then we used string to mark center of the track width. Then, just align the toothpicks to the string (this is assuming that your vehicle travels perfectly straight).

If not, you can use the side scope-thingy from a telescope and simply attach that to your vehicle, then use a marker or something to mark the middle of the track width at the finish line. Then, just look through the sight and line your vehicle up with the marker.

thanks very helpful :D

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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby packer-backer91 » December 12th, 2011, 9:53 am

To add to the theme on which mousetraps are better in the long run if I remember correctly, it’s been almost a full two years, that while Tomcats lose their advantage in pulling power quickly at a point, I think 14-20 trials, that they level off and become just as consistent as Victors. Victors are by far the better brand of the two for consistency. Even reading the package for the Tomcat traps says that they are made for single use and because of that the wood and materials that the traps are made from are lacking in durability. The spring will really dig into the wood in the Tomcat traps after repeated trials for some and others takes more trials, I'm not in expert in telling woods apart but I don’t think that company keeps to one type of wood in their production.

Victors you can re-use time after time and the condition of the trap will not change very much at all between trials.

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chalker7 wrote:
lenkagamine wrote:Thanks! I missed that section. I still can't find a good mousetrap though... mine is weak and can't support the weight of the arm. Any suggestions?


Two options, first try to find some stronger mousetraps. Generic ones that come in kits and such are probably weaker than name brand ones you can purchase at hardware stores. Second, I imagine your arm is too heavy; you want it to be as light and stiff as possible. Also, the length of the arm can seriously affect the vehicle. You might want to shorten the arm. What are you using for a material and how long is it?

Thanks for the help! I was able to figure out the arm problem now... but now i have this other problem... My back axle's completely crooked!! *sigh* oh well, time to build another one, i guess.


Recommendation: use carbon fiber rod for your arm and your axel problem could have been caused by if it’s your drive axel the pull form the traps especially if you have long axels.
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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby gorf250 » December 16th, 2011, 6:44 am

Hey do you all prefer to use a rigid or slightly bendy rod? I feel like I am losing energy with the bendy rod that I used...
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Re: Mousetrap Vehicle B

Postby packer-backer91 » December 17th, 2011, 11:11 pm

gorf250 wrote:Hey do you all prefer to use a rigid or slightly bendy rod? I feel like I am losing energy with the bendy rod that I used...



Should make no significant difference, the rod when it bends is storing energy from the mousetraps that have been activated. Assuming that you use the full mousetraps energy your arm that bended should be strait at the conclusion of the run and the energy used in bending the rod initially is released [used in unwinding string]. The more bend a rod has can help improve accuracy slightly as well, if anyone else has ever noticed that given the power of the traps someone uses and the mass of the vehicle at start a vehicle may tend to jump a little if you use a stiff rod. So a bendy rod will allow for a smoother transition from stationary to moving reducing the jumping effect I mention previously.

Note: your rod must be un-bended to begin the run, the way I have always interpreted the rules make it clear that all energy must come from the mouse traps. Having a bent rod to start will gives you an advantage because there is albeit small amount of extra energy that did not originate from the mousetrap.
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