General Mission Possible

Locked
Flavorflav
Member
Member
Posts: 1388
Joined: February 5th, 2006, 7:06 am
Division: Grad
State: NY
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 3 times

Re: General Mission Possible

Post by Flavorflav »

So a year or two ago the coach running towers at regional reported that another coach, who had been assigned to assist him, was taking pictures of every tower, presumably for use with his team next year. As a proctor he had access that spectators did not, so I think it was inappropriate, but I am interested to hear what you all think.
fleet130
Staff Emeritus
Staff Emeritus
Posts: 433
Joined: November 10th, 2001, 3:06 pm
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0
Contact:

Re: General Mission Possible

Post by fleet130 »

Using access as an agent of Science Olympiad (In this case the coach/volunteer) to gain advantage for a team would be a violation of ethics. On the other hand, as an event supervisor, Science Olympiad ask me to photograph each device presented for competition. I have had event volunteers who were team coaches take the photos for me. At the time they may haveappeared to be taking advantage, but had no access to the photos after the event was over.
Information expressed here is solely the opinion of the author. Any similarity to that of the management or any official instrument is purely coincidental! Doing Science Olympiad since 1987!
Balsa Man
Coach
Coach
Posts: 1318
Joined: November 13th, 2008, 3:01 am
Division: C
State: CO
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 3 times

Re: General Mission Possible

Post by Balsa Man »

I think the crux is "unfair advantage."
In all the building events, the structures/devices are there to be seen; what's visible is visible. What can be seen becomes/is part of the "body of knowledge."
For a coach, or competitor to observe, understand, make notes is .....part of doing a good job.
As in the discussion of photos of Mission-P boxes, a photo is not going to capture/reveal any "secrets"- with a tower, it is sure not going to give you the info needed to duplicate a design (and the execution of that design); its really just a form of taking notes.
Even if we were talking about focusing in on one or two of the "hot'/"top' ones, I'd have to say its just focused observation. In that anyone can observe, I can't see any "unfair advantage" in doing so
We see every year on this board, numerous "I'm new to this event and I have no idea how to start...." posts. As coaches, each year we have new kids coming on that have not seen/participated in events. To be able to provide some insights on "here's what it looked like last year, or 4 years ago when X event was last run" - here's what some winners look like, and here's what non-winners looked like is important, and helpfull, and a good place to start the process for a new year. Pictures are a fine way to do that, is just part of good coaching.
Len Joeris
Fort Collins, CO
Orchdork
Member
Member
Posts: 54
Joined: January 19th, 2011, 6:59 pm
Division: Grad
State: IL
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: General Mission Possible

Post by Orchdork »

State is on saturday... does anyone have any helpful tips on how to make the final task lift a heavier weight?
Events (that I'm coaching)
Water Quality
Science-dad
Member
Member
Posts: 15
Joined: December 21st, 2011, 6:25 pm
Division: B
State: IL
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: General Mission Possible

Post by Science-dad »

I haven't seen this asked yet and was wondering if you thought our all girls team would be allowed to bring a 1 step foot stool so they can see the top of the mission device as it sits on the table? They would impound it with the device.
Orchdork
Member
Member
Posts: 54
Joined: January 19th, 2011, 6:59 pm
Division: Grad
State: IL
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: General Mission Possible

Post by Orchdork »

Science-dad wrote:I haven't seen this asked yet and was wondering if you thought our all girls team would be allowed to bring a 1 step foot stool so they can see the top of the mission device as it sits on the table? They would impound it with the device.

I think that will be fine. Ask then if they say no just don't take the stool. But I think they will met likely say yes.
Events (that I'm coaching)
Water Quality
User avatar
Kid Cobain
Member
Member
Posts: 14
Joined: March 28th, 2012, 6:07 pm
Division: B
State: PA
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: General Mission Possible

Post by Kid Cobain »

Orchdork wrote:
Science-dad wrote:I haven't seen this asked yet and was wondering if you thought our all girls team would be allowed to bring a 1 step foot stool so they can see the top of the mission device as it sits on the table? They would impound it with the device.

I think that will be fine. Ask then if they say no just don't take the stool. But I think they will met likely say yes.
Just make sure that they only use it for seeing over the mission, because my team has a tool box and any thing we use from it must be kept in the box like a container for sand.
Mission Possible+Storm the Castle+Guitar= LIFE

Looking Forward to Nats
State:
Mission-2nd
Storm-5th
Overall-1st
Region:
Mission-1st
Meteorology-2nd
Overall-1st
Orchdork
Member
Member
Posts: 54
Joined: January 19th, 2011, 6:59 pm
Division: Grad
State: IL
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: General Mission Possible

Post by Orchdork »

are we allowed paint our devices?
Events (that I'm coaching)
Water Quality
User avatar
knittingfrenzy18
Exalted Member
Exalted Member
Posts: 142
Joined: April 3rd, 2012, 11:25 am
Division: B
State: MD
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0
Contact:

Re: General Mission Possible

Post by knittingfrenzy18 »

I think so. What makes you think not?
Pilgrimage Homeschool Division B, Maryland
Visited 2012 and 2014 National Tournaments, 5th place Sounds of Music 2014
http://knittingfrenzy18.wordpress.com
Orchdork
Member
Member
Posts: 54
Joined: January 19th, 2011, 6:59 pm
Division: Grad
State: IL
Has thanked: 0
Been thanked: 0

Re: General Mission Possible

Post by Orchdork »

i don't know i was just asking
Events (that I'm coaching)
Water Quality
Locked

Return to “Mission Possible B”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests