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Re: Keep the Heat B/Thermodynamics C

Post by JSGandora » January 17th, 2012, 6:20 pm

You have a record button on your thermometer? o.O

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Re: Keep the Heat B/Thermodynamics C

Post by OldSpice » January 17th, 2012, 6:22 pm

JSGandora wrote:You have a record button on your thermometer? o.O
We have a temperature probe that you can plug into your computer via USB and it'll make graphs for you. Incredibly useful for this event.
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Re: Keep the Heat B/Thermodynamics C

Post by blazer » January 17th, 2012, 6:23 pm

JimY wrote: I'm wondering whether or not the event rule writers realized what they were getting us into, especially for B division.
Keep the Heat has no ice water component, thus making part 1 thirty times easier, in my estimation.
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Re: Keep the Heat B/Thermodynamics C

Post by OldSpice » January 17th, 2012, 6:29 pm

blazer wrote:
JimY wrote: I'm wondering whether or not the event rule writers realized what they were getting us into, especially for B division.
Keep the Heat has no ice water component, thus making part 1 thirty times easier, in my estimation.
Is the ice water component even worth doing? I kind of ignored it as a dumb idea.
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Re: Keep the Heat B/Thermodynamics C

Post by NinjaChicken » January 17th, 2012, 6:42 pm

OldSpice wrote: Is the ice water component even worth doing? I kind of ignored it as a dumb idea.
It depends on how well your device insulates. For the larger volumes, I think it's worth it, at least for my device.
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Re: Keep the Heat B/Thermodynamics C

Post by OldSpice » January 17th, 2012, 6:46 pm

NinjaChicken wrote:
OldSpice wrote: Is the ice water component even worth doing? I kind of ignored it as a dumb idea.
It depends on how well your device insulates. For the larger volumes, I think it's worth it, at least for my device.
Well what I'm saying is, are the points gained significant enough to warrant the extra effort that you need to do to determine the most efficient amount of ice water for each set of variables? Would it be more efficient to use your time doing the standard testing, refining your device, and studying thermodynamics?
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Re: Keep the Heat B/Thermodynamics C

Post by chalker7 » January 17th, 2012, 6:50 pm

JimY wrote: I'm wondering whether or not the event rule writers realized what they were getting us into, especially for B division.
We did. And actually, this is an interesting comment, most of the issues that were raised before the season were that this event was going to be too simple, not too complicated.
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Re: Keep the Heat B/Thermodynamics C

Post by NinjaChicken » January 17th, 2012, 7:16 pm

OldSpice wrote: Well what I'm saying is, are the points gained significant enough to warrant the extra effort that you need to do to determine the most efficient amount of ice water for each set of variables? Would it be more efficient to use your time doing the standard testing, refining your device, and studying thermodynamics?
That's why we have two team members. One, (me), builds and tests the device, and the other studies thermodynamics. I think any possible points are beneficial, and it's not like I don't know anything about the written test. To each their own, I suppose.
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Re: Keep the Heat B/Thermodynamics C

Post by blazer » January 18th, 2012, 3:08 pm

OldSpice wrote:
NinjaChicken wrote:
OldSpice wrote: Is the ice water component even worth doing? I kind of ignored it as a dumb idea.
It depends on how well your device insulates. For the larger volumes, I think it's worth it, at least for my device.
Well what I'm saying is, are the points gained significant enough to warrant the extra effort that you need to do to determine the most efficient amount of ice water for each set of variables? Would it be more efficient to use your time doing the standard testing, refining your device, and studying thermodynamics?
At the last invitational I attended (a fairly large one), not one team (including the winner) used ice water.
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Re: Keep the Heat B/Thermodynamics C

Post by OldSpice » January 18th, 2012, 4:14 pm

blazer wrote:
OldSpice wrote:
NinjaChicken wrote: It depends on how well your device insulates. For the larger volumes, I think it's worth it, at least for my device.
Well what I'm saying is, are the points gained significant enough to warrant the extra effort that you need to do to determine the most efficient amount of ice water for each set of variables? Would it be more efficient to use your time doing the standard testing, refining your device, and studying thermodynamics?
At the last invitational I attended (a fairly large one), not one team (including the winner) used ice water.
See that's what I thought. I feel like it's not something that will be widely utilized.
You're effectively doubling the amount of testing you need to do for a small amount of points. Points that unless your device is perfect and you're getting perfect scores on practice tests could be easily gained by working on other parts of the event, points that don't need ridiculous amounts of time spent on them.
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