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Re: Protein Modeling C

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Has anyone happened to submit a clarification yet?
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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I submitted one. I simplified the question to only refer to the Jmol, and then in additional comments I made further explanation with the PDB. I though a simplified question would work better for supervisors who might be unaware of the mistake and/or were thrown in to supervising and were not very experienced.
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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I apologize if this question has already been asked before, but does anyone know what the approximate diameter of an alpha helix on a model (made from the Toobers) should be?
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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I just wound it around my finger and adjusted it so the helix started and ended at the appropriate amino acids...
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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Just a thought, must creative additions be attached to the model? At some competitions last year, teams came with text on their models giving more information than their notecards stated. At one competition, a team came with a tri-fold board covered in diagrams and text.
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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Does anyone have a 2012 Protien test?
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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paradoxgirl wrote:Just a thought, must creative additions be attached to the model? At some competitions last year, teams came with text on their models giving more information than their notecards stated. At one competition, a team came with a tri-fold board covered in diagrams and text.
It depends on the supervisor, but I believe that most event supervisors want creative additions to the model itself, rather than additional text explaining it. I would stay away from extra text, personally. The idea is to build a model that tells the protein's "molecular story", and it should speak for itself, with just the notecard by way of explanation.

I actually did use a text-based addition at Nationals last year, and I don't know whether or not it got me any points. But it's not really in the spirit of the prebuild, and I won't be doing that this year. It was a pretty last-minute thing, when we couldn't think of another good addition (although I wish I'd thought of adding a nucleosome; ah well). You should be able to see my model from last year (including this text thing) on the image gallery pretty soon, but I don't really recommend emulating that part of it at least.
Diana wrote:Does anyone have a 2012 Protien test?
Probably not. It might be possible to find an unofficial one from an invitational or something, but I'm fairly sure that no official MSOE tests are released until the end of the competition season.
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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I know that this is probably a completely stupid question, but what are the structures from 221-225 and 270-274 in Chain A and from 314-318 in Chain B? The sequence structure shows them as helices, but they don't quite line up with the amino acids that Jmol displays. And if they are non-alpha helices, then how are they folded? Sorry again from the stupid post.
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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hey all!
when folding the pre build model, we notice chain b is supposed to start at 310, but the jmol begins at 320...is there something wrong with out jmol, or is there something wrong with the protien labeling diagram? has anyone had this problem? we just noticed this discrepancy and dont know how to fix it, any help is greatly appreciated
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Re: Protein Modeling C

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You are using the 1i3o file from PDB, right? Unless there's something really screwy with Jmol, it should start at 310. If "restrict *b" doesn't work, you can always try "restrict 310-401".
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