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Re: Protein Modeling C

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quizbowl wrote:
scm424 wrote:Any idea what next year's pre-build protein will be? When is the earliest that that info is released?
Protein isn't slated to be an event in the 2012-2013 season.
Really??? That's really disappointing... Where is the list of the 2012-2013 events?
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scm424 wrote:
quizbowl wrote:
scm424 wrote:Any idea what next year's pre-build protein will be? When is the earliest that that info is released?
Protein isn't slated to be an event in the 2012-2013 season.
Really??? That's really disappointing... Where is the list of the 2012-2013 events?
There's a tentative list here and some discussion about next year's events on this thread (the title is misspelled - it should be 2013). It looks like Circuit Lab will be replacing Protein, which should be interesting nevertheless.
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Dragonshark wrote:There's a tentative list here and some discussion about next year's events on this thread (the title is misspelled - it should be 2013). It looks like Circuit Lab will be replacing Protein, which should be interesting nevertheless.
Technically, Materials/Food Science will be replacing Proteins. Circuit Lab is under another department, and will be replacing Optics.
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Infinity Flat wrote:
Dragonshark wrote:There's a tentative list here and some discussion about next year's events on this thread (the title is misspelled - it should be 2013). It looks like Circuit Lab will be replacing Protein, which should be interesting nevertheless.
Technically, Materials/Food Science will be replacing Proteins. Circuit Lab is under another department, and will be replacing Optics.
Darn, I thought that might happen... Food Sci was my baby back in B Division, and while I was more than happy to have Protein (and would choose Protein over Food Sci), I certainly thought to myself at some point, "Man, I bet Food Sci will come back when they get rid of Protein."

My ideal event lineup would include both of them (plus Fermi, Forensics, Rocks and Science Word xD).
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Is the pre-build the same protein for the state competition as it was for the regional competition? Are we still building caspase-3 for state? If not, where do I find the new protein?
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omeisner12 wrote:Is the pre-build the same protein for the state competition as it was for the regional competition? Are we still building caspase-3 for state? If not, where do I find the new protein?
The prebuild protein does not change as the competition level increases. However, at States, more points will be assigned to creative additions than at regionals.
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I haven't really been around the pmod thread (I'm a heavy helicopters lurker), but I finally came round to reading...

Whew, I just read a marathon through this whole thread, and I have to say, there was great information from many people, especially you, Phenylethylamine. I'd love to meet you someday!

I will do the best I can at Nationals with this arsenal of information from ya'll! Thanks for answering so many questions I had, that I really didn't know I had until they were answered! ;P
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Just to make sure I'm assuming correctly, we're modeling MHC II at nationals, right?

*Edit: Nevermind! I was wrong, it's MHC I we're modeling.
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Has anyone accessed the primary citation for the MHC pdb file yet?
The file links to the abstract (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1525 ... t=Abstract)
Is is just not available for free public viewing yet?
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grump wrote:Has anyone accessed the primary citation for the MHC pdb file yet?
The file links to the abstract (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1525 ... t=Abstract)
Is is just not available for free public viewing yet?
In this case, it's not an issue of "yet" – this article was published in 1992. This article was published in a journal that doesn't seem to release its articles for public viewing (at least, not in any reasonable timespan).

My only recommendation is that you ask at your high school if they have a subscription to ScienceDirect or any other journal access service – which is fairly unlikely, as few high schools do – or find a student or faculty member at your nearest university and ask them really nicely to download it for you (as most universities will have a subscription to ScienceDirect). I haven't read it yet (yay for AP exams + senioritis?), but I'll be getting it from the nearby university where I'm co-enrolled/working in a research lab.
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