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Re: Forestry B/C

Post by silverheart7 » January 5th, 2013, 10:35 pm

I know about distinguishing pines using needles per bundle, bark, and cone, but do you guys have any more reccommenadtions for telling some of the more similar trees apart?
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Re: Forestry B/C

Post by OldSpice » January 6th, 2013, 11:46 am

135scioly wrote:
melissay63 wrote:
PacificGoldenPlover wrote:You are allowed to write an unlimited amount in your field guides. It does not count as written notes.
But in the rules under event parameter: "...up to two commercially published resources that may be annotated and tabbed (limit 3 words)"
Yes, but that's if you put tabs, I thought you could write whatever you wanted in your field guides.

EDIT: "tabs" as in those sticky things you can buy, or like post-its
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Re: Forestry B/C

Post by PicturePerfect » January 6th, 2013, 9:11 pm

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rtunnel97 wrote:When the rules say two two-sided pages of information, does this mean we get two double sided pages of notes and the state tree list? or is the state tree list not provided?
I mean Ill have the names of all the trees on my two double sided pages of notes but this would be something i think i need to know. thanks in advance!

Whatever you put on your two double sided pages of notes, and nothing else. Well, besides your 2 tabbed books. And you. And a pencil.

Alright thank you. What kind of information are you guys putting on your cheat sheet? I was thinking about doing interesting facts, do you guys think that would be helpful? It's kind of hard to put identification clues and stuff because you don't have enough time to read through your cheat sheet for something like that? In not sure though, help please!
What kind of 'interesting facts'? If you mean how the tree got its common name, or what diseases/pests are damaging to it, then yes, those are very useful. I can't think of any other types of interesting facts. :P I mean, Native American usage of it or what birds/animals consume parts of a tree aren't what most people call interesting, although you do need to know that.

As for identification clues, the Audubon guides have a few pages in the front where it gives you a leaf group (ex. needle-leaf conifers or scale-leaf conifers, etc.) and then tells you what families of trees have that leaf shape, and gives you a small image of the typical leaf shapes of that family. Um.. Did that make sense? :P
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Re: Forestry B/C

Post by pikachu4919 » January 7th, 2013, 10:59 am

In my state, they changed the rules so that we're allowed to have a binder and ONE field guide. I'm using the Eastern Audubon guide as my field guide, but do you have recommendations for good resources to put in the binders?
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Re: Forestry B/C

Post by 135scioly » January 7th, 2013, 11:48 am

For my two field guides, I was considering using the Sibley Field Guide, and the NWF guide, but do you guys think it would be better to take the Audubon instead since the tree list is based off of it?
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Re: Forestry B/C

Post by FueL » January 7th, 2013, 3:59 pm

135scioly wrote:For my two field guides, I was considering using the Sibley Field Guide, and the NWF guide, but do you guys think it would be better to take the Audubon instead since the tree list is based off of it?
Imo no because the Sibley is amazing for ID, the NWF is amazing for facts, while the Audubon is good for neither.
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Re: Forestry B/C

Post by caseyotis » January 7th, 2013, 5:01 pm

135scioly wrote:For my two field guides, I was considering using the Sibley Field Guide, and the NWF guide, but do you guys think it would be better to take the Audubon instead since the tree list is based off of it?
I highly recommend bringing Audubon instead of Sibley's; last year I brought Sibley's + Audubon and Sibley's did diddlysquat; I only used Audubon and got in 1st. This year I'm doing Audubon + NWF, which I didn't have last year.
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Re: Forestry B/C

Post by 135scioly » January 7th, 2013, 6:31 pm

Haha, I still don't know which one is better... I did notice that the NWF doesn't have frosted hawthorn, but I think missing one tree is ok for a field guide since the other one has it.

Caseyotis, I did the same thing last year except Sibley helped a lot more for me than I guess it did for you. I would have to agree with FueL and I think I'll take the NWF and Sibley, thanks you guys! :D
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Re: Forestry B/C

Post by PicturePerfect » January 7th, 2013, 8:23 pm

pikachu4919 wrote:In my state, they changed the rules so that we're allowed to have a binder and ONE field guide. I'm using the Eastern Audubon guide as my field guide, but do you have recommendations for good resources to put in the binders?
I would put info on trees that are only found in the Western Audubon guide, as well as for every tree on the list:
1. The commercial use (ex. used to build fences, etc.)
2. Diseases/pests that damage it
3. What parts of it may be used in medicine
4. Relationships with animals in its natural habitat or relationships with livestock
5. Native American usage of it

And stuff like that.
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Re: Forestry B/C

Post by butter side up » January 8th, 2013, 11:31 am

alczha wrote:
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alczha wrote:For division C, do we need to know how trees carry out specific functions such as the Calvin cycle?
I have seen some general questions about xylem, phloem, basic tree anatomy... but I've never seen anything as detailed as the Calvin cycle being asked.
Oh good. I was planning on learning the Calvin cycle and such; now I don't have to. :)

In regards to the note sheet, are we allowed to type them, or do they have to be handwritten?
They can be typed, and can contain pictures, diagrams, doodles of cats, whatever you think might be helpful.
What I would recommend, based on past experience, is vocab that isn't in the glossary, and some shortcuts for IDing trees that you find difficult to distinguish between. We have a list of the similar-looking pines by needles per bundle, along with defining characteristics, for example.
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