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Iolani Invitational

Postby kentuckyfan1001 » April 20th, 2013, 7:47 pm

Does anyone know/have the results for the virtual tournament?
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Re: Iolani Invitational

Postby earthbot25 » April 21st, 2013, 6:33 am

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub ... utput=html

it should all be in by Monday apparently.
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Re: Iolani Invitational

Postby nickbron » April 21st, 2013, 9:29 pm

Thanks for letting us know when the results will be out. We were just anxious about these results.

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Re: Iolani Invitational

Postby lmatkovic3 » April 21st, 2013, 9:31 pm

Wow, Harriton...

Did anyone else feel uncomfortable with the content of the Forensics test?

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Re: Iolani Invitational

Postby Jdogg » April 21st, 2013, 9:33 pm

lmatkovic3 wrote:Wow, Harriton...

Did anyone else feel uncomfortable with the content of the Forensics test?


yeah, I heard the wording was terrible..
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Re: Iolani Invitational

Postby lmatkovic3 » April 21st, 2013, 9:36 pm

Aside from that, ~20% of the test was forensics related while the other 80% was trivia, some even about organic chemistry. The national forensics champions (Centerville) getting 17th doesn't really help, lol.

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Postby fozendog » April 22nd, 2013, 12:03 am

All I want is the answer key so I can add it to my notes. That's all I want :D
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Postby computergeek3 » April 22nd, 2013, 5:41 am

lmatkovic3 wrote:
Did anyone else feel uncomfortable with the content of the Forensics test?


Yes.
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Postby computergeek3 » April 22nd, 2013, 10:12 am

Apologize for the double post, but do we know which team wrote what test?
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Re: Iolani Invitational

Postby Jdogg » April 22nd, 2013, 10:46 am

computergeek3 wrote:Apologize for the double post, but do we know which team wrote what test?


It's on the top of each of the tests.
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Re: Iolani Invitational

Postby paradoxgirl » April 22nd, 2013, 10:53 am

The forensics test was badly written. Some of the questions were merely worded in a confusing manner, which would have been cleared up by a proctor if the test had been given in regular competition. Some questions were, however, impossibly mangled.

Case in point: the DNA fingerprinting portion of the test was centered around an image (taken from Google images) of a gel with several samples on it. Two of the "samples," including the one labeled as the DNA evidence found at the scene, were actually the ladders run in the gel for comparison purposes, to indicate the lengths of all of the DNA fragments present. It was therefore impossible to match any of the other labeled samples, the suspects, to the DNA found at the scene, and that part of the "collected evidence" could not be used in the analysis.

That being said, all of the other tests I took as part of this invitational were challenging and well written. I am very glad that my team was able to take part in it! This test, however, doesn't seem to have been proofread at all. Even a cursory second glance would have fixed some of the errors.
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Re: Iolani Invitational

Postby mnstrviola » April 22nd, 2013, 7:09 pm

Wait... was this a virtual invitational? Or on that note, are there any virtual invitationals?

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Postby fozendog » April 22nd, 2013, 7:31 pm

It was an invitational run by the Iolani School in Hawaii and each school participating made a test.
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Re: Iolani Invitational

Postby Makeithappen » April 22nd, 2013, 7:35 pm

So how is it virtual?? Don't all teams write tests anyway? Why is theis invite special?
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Re: Iolani Invitational

Postby hmcginny » April 22nd, 2013, 7:40 pm

Each team was sent the documents of all of the tests and the coaches distributed and proctored the tests whenever we wanted during a given week. We had to write all our answers out in word documents and email them back, then each coach got the answer sheets for the test they wrote, graded them and then they were posted online. No one had to travel anywhere and all the tests were taken without a set schedule so there were no conflicts. Pretty awesome idea from a school (host school is from hawaii) that can't really participate in competitive invitationals without traveling absurd distances.
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