Unofficial Rankings, Division B

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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby DivineBbbbbeast » March 18th, 2013, 9:38 pm

Food for thought...Why Solon is #1? They've been faltering this year.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby captainscioly » March 19th, 2013, 9:40 am

More food for thought... if you spend time studying for events instead of posting hypothetical and pointless rankings, maybe your team will beat these top teams!

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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby geminicross » March 19th, 2013, 12:27 pm

Food for thought, if you're not going to contribute to the conversation....don't post :roll:

And in response....until we know how Solon fares at states, they're the all around best team IMHO.

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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby inluvwyth_WANTED » March 19th, 2013, 12:53 pm

captainscioly wrote:More food for thought... if you spend time studying for events instead of posting hypothetical and pointless rankings, maybe your team will beat these top teams!

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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby soccerkid812 » March 19th, 2013, 2:07 pm

captainscioly wrote:More food for thought... if you spend time studying for events instead of posting hypothetical and pointless rankings, maybe your team will beat these top teams!


I agree with this statement.

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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby mrburrito » March 19th, 2013, 2:16 pm

Everyone, this page is made so people can see who the top teams are. This is not a pointless page, everyone can see these teams and motivate themselves to make this list! It doesn't take away a whole lot of study time either, 24 hours in a day, I use every one of them. This is a page made for friendly conversation and education, please don't try to squander it. If you have problems with it than you can PM me.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby EastStroudsburg13 » March 19th, 2013, 2:32 pm

I think a better point to make would be that someone is always going to disagree with your rankings. That's why college sports rankings have several voters, because everyone's ranking is different. So while it does make an interesting discussion, and I wouldn't call it pointless, you're not going to please everyone.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby DivineBbbbbeast » March 19th, 2013, 3:21 pm

captainscioly wrote:More food for thought... if you spend time studying for events instead of posting hypothetical and pointless rankings, maybe your team will beat these top teams!


Chillax bro, I study a lot for my events. Anyways, I was posing a hypothetical situation. I personally think that Marie Murphy, Daniel Wright, and Shady Side will definitely pose as contenders against Solon. Both MM and DW are pretty new teams, I've never heard of them until this last few years. Solon's main advantage is that they have so many years of experience, and that probably most their members have been to a Nationals before. However, now that the Illinois teams have that experience, it'll get interesting to see. Shady Side has performed especially well this year. Unlike Solon's event bombing, Shady Side remains relatively consistent in their placings, allowing them to win Wright State by a good margin. So if I were to rank, I'd go:
1. MM
2. Shady Side
3. Solon
4. DW
5. Meads Mill
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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby geminicross » March 19th, 2013, 3:38 pm

How is Daniel Wright ranked above Booth, if they've never beaten Booth at Nats?

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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby infidescientiam » March 19th, 2013, 5:24 pm

geminicross wrote:How is Daniel Wright ranked above Booth, if they've never beaten Booth at Nats?

Daniel Wright did in fact "beat" Booth at the Wright State Invite. It was a surprise, since Booth had taken 3rd at 2012 Nationals and Daniel Wright took 6th; but seeing the performance of both teams at an Invitational that was regarded to be at a near-"national" level the results were definite- Booth took 8th as Daniel Wright took 2nd. However, I believe no one can strictly judge the rankings from invitationals since Booth may have had a bad day, didn't have all its members, or other mishaps all teams encounter at these "not serious" competitions which don't count (i.e. Regionals, States, Nationals).

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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby havenguy » March 19th, 2013, 5:47 pm

infidescientiam wrote:
geminicross wrote:How is Daniel Wright ranked above Booth, if they've never beaten Booth at Nats?

Daniel Wright did in fact "beat" Booth at the Wright State Invite. It was a surprise, since Booth had taken 3rd at 2012 Nationals and Daniel Wright took 6th; but seeing the performance of both teams at an Invitational that was regarded to be at a near-"national" level the results were definite- Booth took 8th as Daniel Wright took 2nd. However, I believe no one can strictly judge the rankings from invitationals since Booth may have had a bad day, didn't have all its members, or other mishaps all teams encounter at these "not serious" competitions which don't count (i.e. Regionals, States, Nationals).


Also, the Wright State Invite was about 2.5 months ago--a lot can change in that time...
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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby MMeteorite1 » March 19th, 2013, 6:24 pm

I've enjoyed the banter and friendly discussions. I think we all know this is just fun discussion, no different than all the pre-NCAA basketball bracket busting shows, speculating match ups. On or about May 18th, we will know for sure and we can all see how close or far from actual we all were. Nice job Mrburrito for starting the thread. Good luck to all. I hope to be able to say, "see you at Nationals" in about 3 weeks.

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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby ljh » March 20th, 2013, 12:56 pm

I heard that was because half of the Booth team A members had schedule conflict with Wright state invitational due to the State band and orchestra auditions.



infidescientiam wrote:
geminicross wrote:How is Daniel Wright ranked above Booth, if they've never beaten Booth at Nats?

Daniel Wright did in fact "beat" Booth at the Wright State Invite. It was a surprise, since Booth had taken 3rd at 2012 Nationals and Daniel Wright took 6th; but seeing the performance of both teams at an Invitational that was regarded to be at a near-"national" level the results were definite- Booth took 8th as Daniel Wright took 2nd. However, I believe no one can strictly judge the rankings from invitationals since Booth may have had a bad day, didn't have all its members, or other mishaps all teams encounter at these "not serious" competitions which don't count (i.e. Regionals, States, Nationals).

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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby mrburrito » March 21st, 2013, 5:41 pm

I'm going to start posting weekly rankings on Saturdays at 12:30. Due to all the recent tournaments, rankings are going to become a lot more accurate, but keep sending in the feedback, that's what rreally keeps these rankings accurate.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Postby PacificGoldenPlover » March 21st, 2013, 9:44 pm

Here is my "bank" of teams that are probably the best.

Solon
Shady Side
Booth
Daniel Wright
Churchill
Muscatel
Meads Mill
Marie Murphy
Magsig
Beckendorff

If I had to put them in any semblance of an order I'd do:

Solon (because they're Solon)
Shady Side/Marie Murphy (Shady Side because they won WSU Invites, Marie Murphy because they have finished second at nationals last year)
Booth
Daniel Wright
Meads Mill
Churchill
Muscatel
Magsig
Beckendorff

Personally, I think this is pointless until we start seeing some results from some of the big gun states and see how well the favorites carry them. Even then, that is not a good predictor. For instance, last year, Muscatel demolished SoCal states, with a score of 61, but went on to get 10th at nationals. By contrast, Troy High School got double Muscatel's score for Div. C, and went on to get second. Frankly, I think it's a bit early to be speculating rankings right now.
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