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Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 5th, 2013, 5:43 pm
by mrburrito
I have done research from the previous year's results, and this year's invitational tournament results, and I've decided to rank the top ten teams in the country so far this year. I know this list may be inaccurate, but it isn't intentionally, if at all, biased, and just reflects the results and success of teams. Please give feedback on this list, and let me know if you have official tournament results or opinions about who should and shouldn't be ranked.

1st. Solon
2nd. Magsig
3rd. Shady Side
4th. Booth
5th. Marie Murphie
6th. Daniel Wright
7th. Beckondorff
8th. Chardon
9th. Bearden
10th. Meads Mill

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 7th, 2013, 8:08 pm
by silverheart7
Okay. I'm extremely biased, but a few teams may fit here: Eagle Hill, Strath Haven, and Paul J. Gelinas are strong. I don't know if they're/we're top ten, but there are so many teams that you can't really rank the top overall. There are so many variables in competition (read: scoring errors and the like) that it's almost impossible to base an accurate "list" like this strictly on tournament results.

Except for Solon, I agree they dominate in both Divisions.

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 7th, 2013, 8:29 pm
by Skink
I am not commenting on the ranking itself seeing as how National top ten rankings are beyond my level of competition, but I wanted to point out it's Marie Murphy.

Well, and, at the above, you cannot factor in alleged scoring 'errors' when making something like this. Whatever is in the scoring system (post-arbitration if applicable) are the rankings. It doesn't matter if Skink JHS coulda woulda shoulda been ranked higher at the tournament but were slighted by the supervisors. The supervisors were right.

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 7th, 2013, 9:38 pm
by PacificGoldenPlover
As a diehard west coast patriot, I must point out that you missed Muscatel and Churchill.

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 7th, 2013, 9:40 pm
by inluvwyth_WANTED
Churchill is the NorCal team right?

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 7th, 2013, 9:46 pm
by PacificGoldenPlover
correct

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 8th, 2013, 12:00 am
by aim4me26
PacificGoldenPlover wrote:As a diehard west coast patriot, I must point out that you missed Muscatel and Churchill.


Yeah, Churchill definitely belongs on the list in my opinion. They got fourth at Nats last year, which is a notable accomplishment.

Muscatel also did well, placing tenth at Nats.

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 8th, 2013, 6:08 pm
by Paleofreakazoid
Not to mention that Muscatel got 4th the year before! They are a very dedicated team!

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 9th, 2013, 6:44 am
by mrburrito
Okay, so it looks like I should place Church Hill in here, and maybe Muscatel, who should be removed though?

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 9th, 2013, 7:59 am
by geminicross
Bearden really shouldn't be there, they haven't gone to Nats in 2 years, and generally place in the 20s.

Also, Mead's Mill doesn't really have a history (as opposed to say Solon/Booth), as this was the first time they qualified for Nats. But I'm a little aprehensive to take them off the list, considering Michigan teams always perform well at Nats.

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 9th, 2013, 9:42 am
by EastStroudsburg13
I don't think Shady Side should be that high, since B teams from PA haven't placed in the top 10 since 2008. While they have been impressive at invitationals, I think there are other teams who have had more recent success, like Booth and Marie Murphy, that should be ahead of them.

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 9th, 2013, 12:46 pm
by geminicross
Booth also appears to need to be ranked ahead of Magsis, by national results comparison...

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 10th, 2013, 1:34 pm
by mrburrito
So what I'm hearing is add Church Hill, lower Shady Side (1st at Wright State Invitationals), and completely drop Bearden(3rd New Albany)? This sounds reasonable, and if anyone has Regional results, let me know, because they actually count.

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 10th, 2013, 3:33 pm
by EastStroudsburg13
Pretty much. All of the other teams in there seem deserving of being in the top 10, although some arguments will naturally be made because there is no definite ranking. Since Winston Churchill got 4th last year, they definitely needed to be added, and even though Shady Side hasn't excelled in recent years, that was an impressive invitational showing, so putting them in the top 10 is understandable (for now).

Re: Unofficial Rankings, Division B

Posted: March 10th, 2013, 3:44 pm
by ckssv07
I do not think Magsig deserves to be that high, as they have not been doing too well this year. I think Daniel Wright should be a lot higher as they have been doing very well at invitationals this year.