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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby SOnerd » May 19th, 2014, 3:26 pm

So what did you guys think of the Nats test?
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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby henceagrin36 » May 19th, 2014, 3:55 pm

SOnerd wrote:So what did you guys think of the Nats test?

Honestly, I was quite disappointed. I was lucky enough to survive great regionals and state entomology tests with actual specimens, and I was hoping to get wrecked by the nationals test. I did forestry at nationals last year, so I was expecting pretty much the same thing: a hard, torturous test. I felt like the nationals test was too simple and too easy - once I identified the specimen, all I had to do was look for the answers in the field guide (I feel bad for the teams that didn't have the Audubon guide). The specimens were good, but they were so tiny. My partner and I had to stick our faces and hand lens in the alcohol in order to see them properly. It was a good test, but I don't think it was good enough to be nationals quality. I was really expecting a huge challenge, but I didn't get it. I was ready to put up a good fight. Although my partner and I placed at nationals, I still feel like it wasn't deserved - I feel like there were too many possible ties that the rankings were not accurate. My state and regional tests were harder than nationals, unfortunately.
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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby ptkid » May 19th, 2014, 4:15 pm

I have the same feelings as Henceagrin36. I prepared so much for the national tournament and was disappointed by all the Audubon questions and pretty easy insect specimens. And they were all tiny, but that was fine. I could have walked in there with how much I studied for an invitational last December and I would have still gotten the same place I got (7th). We were okay with our placing mainly because I'm pretty sure there were a lot of ties and that the test wasn't hard and didn't properly measure how much teams prepared. All teams were finishing each station very early.
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Postby Shreyas1030 » May 19th, 2014, 4:31 pm

The B test was very easy as well. However, there was a lot of anatomy, a topic that is rarely covered in the Audubon. I feel like our regionals competition was brutal compared to the nationals test. I received 2nd at state, and 10th at nationals. This was my 1st national tournament ever and I was expecting a brutal test with barely enough time to finish it. The test was the exact opposite. I had around 1.5 minutes for each station to go over answers. To be honest, I barely studied entomology since state, and was quite surprised that I pulled a 10th at nationals. Also, it was very painful to look at the tiny specimen in alcohol. Our hand lens was not very powerful, and gave us nearly no help. However, I did like seeing that each identification station had real specimen along with pictures. That was a real + in the test, but overall, I believe it was WAY too easy for a nationals competition. I hope we don't see anything like that in the future.
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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby mk3966 » May 19th, 2014, 5:10 pm

I actually kinda liked the tiny specimen... They were at least a small challenge in relation to the rest of the test. The two huge issues were that they used the most straight-forward specimens (i.e. the horntail and swallowtail) and the questions were copied straight out of the Audubon. I could've identified most of those just by seeing the questions. If I had taken an extra five minutes studying mouthparts I think we could have taken first. One question I still don't know the answer to: Isoptera lack an ?????? We put ovipositor because it's the only thing that starts with a vowel that makes any sense. Anyone know the answer there?
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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby Shreyas1030 » May 19th, 2014, 7:25 pm

The only thing I can think of is a stigma, but that doesn't make sense because of the "an" in the question. It may have been a typo, but someone would have probably pointed it out if that was the case. I wouldn't have expected that from a nationals comp anyway. It pretty weird that they asked that... :?:
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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby Flavorflav » May 20th, 2014, 6:30 am

Abdominal petiole?

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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby SOnerd » May 20th, 2014, 4:40 pm

I'm doing ento next year, and I was wondering if they usually change the list at all...
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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby mk3966 » May 20th, 2014, 4:58 pm

SOnerd wrote:I'm doing ento next year, and I was wondering if they usually change the list at all...
Thanks :D

From what my partner told me, the list and overall rules will be almost identical to this year's...maybe with a few new additions (hopefully they get rid of Dactylopiidae...it's just so weird :? ).
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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby PsychrolutesMarcidus » May 20th, 2014, 5:22 pm

For those of you who did well in this in div C at nationals, how many questions do you think you got wrong? My partner and I think we only got a few wrong but we still placed terribly...

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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby henceagrin36 » May 20th, 2014, 5:33 pm

PsychrolutesMarcidus wrote:For those of you who did well in this in div C at nationals, how many questions do you think you got wrong? My partner and I think we only got a few wrong but we still placed terribly...

Due to the easy nature of this test, I think missing one question could have made a team drop 5-10 places in ranking. When my partner and I first saw the test, we knew that we could not afford to miss a single question. Missing "a few" questions on this nationals entomology test was especially dangerous since I think that all of the scores were quite close, differing by only a few points. I'm guessing that the range of scores for this test was really close together, so the top 6 for entomology probably missed less than 2 or 3. It was actually hard to miss a question on the test, since correct identification would immediately lead to correct answers for the following questions. The questions that separated teams were probably the anatomy, the vectors (I don't know if this was in the book. I think it was, but I had it on my cheat sheet so we didn't consult the field guide), and the vocabulary.
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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby mk3966 » May 20th, 2014, 5:49 pm

PsychrolutesMarcidus wrote:For those of you who did well in this in div C at nationals, how many questions do you think you got wrong? My partner and I think we only got a few wrong but we still placed terribly...

We got 4th and definitely missed a minimum of 3, possibly more like 4 or 5. Two of those were anatomy
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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby HeartCaro » May 22nd, 2014, 7:41 am

I agree! I thought the entomology test would be a lot more brutal (like the forestry one last year). The only question my partner and I missed was the Isoptera one (an??) and we were first, so it was probably really close.

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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby AJTheGreat1729 » May 23rd, 2014, 3:30 pm

Congratulations on first!

I would have loved to see the C div test. The B division had a few questions that totally stumped us, but fortunately had some critical thinking questions.
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Re: Entomology B/C

Postby doublelift » May 26th, 2014, 2:04 pm

SOnerd wrote:So what did you guys think of the Nats test?


Honestly the biggest problem with the test was the fact that there were so few hard questions, and those were the questions that were fairly ambiguous and everyone probably missed them (especially the one asking what termites lacked lol), so the only way you could have really missed questions was through individual mistakes.
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