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Re: Texas 2014

Postby jacobxc » December 8th, 2013, 4:23 pm

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breadcleaner wrote:could see the dog tags/lanterns and maybe even the award format being suitable for a middle school contest, but this was a pretty poor call for division C. The dog tags/lanterns were probably due to budget constraints so I'd feel guilty being harsh on that, but the format... come on now, just killed the spirit of competition for science olympiad..

any more teams going to hendrickson??? There are only seven currently registered and my coach needs more competition to be convinced it's worth traveling to. :'(


Hey, for a first time putting on a contest it was pretty good. I'm no sure it really killed the spirit to give those out, but it was different. I kinda liked the lanterns honestly.

Oh, and we're not going to Hendrickson.

Well technically it is not there first time to put on an invitational. It's there first high school one. And i think one of the main reasons for doing a cheap way of medals is because I heard there principle no longer allows them to ride and stay with their parents at state. They needed another way to get more money, so they held a high school invitational. But I still agree with both of you.
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Re: Texas 2014

Postby jlee7x2 » December 8th, 2013, 7:58 pm

My school is very interested in Hendrickson if more teams go. We're very leaning towards it.
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Postby renxinhe » December 8th, 2013, 8:06 pm

jlee7x2 wrote:My school is very interested in Hendrickson if more teams go. We're very leaning towards it.

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Re: Texas 2014

Postby Soren1129 » December 8th, 2013, 10:33 pm

Clements needs to stop trolling these.

On the real, Clements is going to try to go to Hendrickson if we can - we hope other teams will join in because competitions are only fun/worth going to when there are a ton of teams!
Also, I was super disappointed with the new awarding style and it seems like Hendrickson is following this new style. If anyone from Hendrickson sees this, can you please change it? If it helps, LASA and Seven Lakes aren't going so it's not like some super powerhouse will bring three teams that sweep everything. I think the rest of us are pretty evenly matched and will have a fun and fair competition, but it really is unfair to kids who aren't the top team of their school to not get medals at an invitational. I mean, these kids can't go to state because of the one team limitations, don't restrict them from placing at invitationals too.

Does anyone have any information about Langham Creek? They don't have much available on their website.

Does anyone have any contact with the UT regional coordinators? We're signed up to go to their regional, but so far there is no website and the contest is less than 4 months away. All we know is that they're offering "all the events" but we really don't know if that means 23 or 28 and what schedule they are following etc. We like to decide our regional teams pretty early on so we can prepare ahead of time but this is preventing us from doing so...

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Re: Texas 2014

Postby jacobxc » December 9th, 2013, 7:33 am

Just saw they messed up our score at hopper so Kingwood might have beaten cyfalls.
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Re: Texas 2014

Postby iwonder » December 9th, 2013, 7:38 am

How so?
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Re: Texas 2014

Postby jacobxc » December 9th, 2013, 2:10 pm

They gave us 31st place in TPS when I competed in it. Now its not like i got in the top four or anything, but it will definitely takes away 10 point and we only lost to Cyfalls by 3 points. Everyone who competed I would suggest to see if they gave your teams the right score. It is not unlikely for this to happen at a competition no matter if its been around for a while or is brand new.
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Postby iwonder » December 9th, 2013, 3:24 pm

I actually looked for out TPS test today and couldn't find it. But yeah, you're right... huh. Good job I guess? What was your score? Speaking of which... it looks like Cyfalls was the 3rd place school in TPS so we should have a third place dog tag.... :/

Speaking of TPS, was it just me, or did that just seem like a calculus test? My partner was the one who studied physics, but I've taken Calc BC and I did the physics part since that's all it was... (well, minus the last question)
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Re: Texas 2014

Postby jacobxc » December 9th, 2013, 4:10 pm

iwonder wrote:I actually looked for out TPS test today and couldn't find it. But yeah, you're right... huh. Good job I guess? What was your score? Speaking of which... it looks like Cyfalls was the 3rd place school in TPS so we should have a third place dog tag.... :/

Speaking of TPS, was it just me, or did that just seem like a calculus test? My partner was the one who studied physics, but I've taken Calc BC and I did the physics part since that's all it was... (well, minus the last question)

My score is very bad considering I had no clue what I was doing in that test since I usually stick to bio and build events, but what I am saying is we got fifth with a score of 227 and Cyfalls got forth with a score of 224. So like I said 10 or so points taken would mean we would beat them. And there is no way we beat you in TPS.
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Postby iwonder » December 9th, 2013, 4:13 pm

Yeah, I know what you said, I just don't want to admit it's entirely true :D

And they certainly had some scoring issues... but I understand the rush to get everything in and how it could come up. Sorry it had to end up that way.
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Re: Texas 2014

Postby lchs » December 9th, 2013, 4:28 pm

Look out for a ton of information regarding the Langham Creek Invitational in the next few days. All the details will be posted soon! :D

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Re: Texas 2014

Postby srsvball95 » December 9th, 2013, 4:43 pm

Interesting discussion regarding Husky. I personally thought the tests were decently written, and given the circumstances (i.e. bad weather not letting certain teams come), I thought that it was a well-run invitational. I was actually surprised that they were able to start awards so early, so kudos to Hopper for that.

I understand where they were going with the dog tags, and personally, I thought it was a nice change from the usual medals.

My team also had a few issues with the scoring, but that's just part of invitationals.
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Re: Texas 2014

Postby henceagrin36 » December 9th, 2013, 5:08 pm

I heard that some of the tests/test questions at Husky could be found online and/or were direct copies from another tests. I didn't personally take these tests, but supposedly the water quality test was a 2011 or so test and based on freshwater instead of the estuaries (or whatever it was. I don't do wq =.=) that were supposed to be the topic of the test. Some other tests were plagiarized. Also, the We've Got Your Number Test consisted of only 1 set of numbers, instead of the usual 2 sets.
Of course, the problems with the tests aren't Husky's fault but rather the fault of the school that wrote the test. However, I've really hoped that I can go to a legit invitational with good tests. Plagiarizing tests is disadvantageous to all teams, since it becomes a competition between who has an answer key for the test and who doesn't, or who remembers the most from last year. It's not even a competition to see who the best is.
I was actually pleased with the early awards ceremony, and I bet a lot of other schools were, too. Even with the insufficient numbers of proctors etc., Husky did do a very good job with running it.

ooh information about langham creek's invitational! I'll be waiting.
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Re: Texas 2014

Postby jlee7x2 » December 9th, 2013, 6:08 pm

Yes but let's all talk about Hendrickson first ^_^

Just kidding (not really), but some comments about Husky:
-Storm the Castle was run so that you had 5 minutes to retrieve your trebuchet, ready the launch position, and THEN fire 4 shots. The guidelines specified 5 minutes for 4 launches (and just the 4 launches), and that's how it was run at state last year. Yet, there was no reasoning with this guy though; his discretion was king because he had the timer in his hand, despite the impracticality. The irksome thing was that he insisted he was right, but didn't penalize anyone... yeah pretty annoying but again,that's not Husky's fault. (edit: jk it is their fault. Hopper ran this event. welp)
-PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't just jack tests from online. To be honest, many teams already have everything (I MEAN EVERYTHING) printed out.
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Re: Texas 2014

Postby breadcleaner » December 9th, 2013, 7:41 pm

henceagrin36 wrote:I heard that some of the tests/test questions at Husky could be found online and/or were direct copies from another tests. I didn't personally take these tests, but supposedly the water quality test was a 2011 or so test and based on freshwater instead of the estuaries (or whatever it was. I don't do wq =.=) that were supposed to be the topic of the test. Some other tests were plagiarized. Also, the We've Got Your Number Test consisted of only 1 set of numbers, instead of the usual 2 sets.
Of course, the problems with the tests aren't Husky's fault but rather the fault of the school that wrote the test. However, I've really hoped that I can go to a legit invitational with good tests. Plagiarizing tests is disadvantageous to all teams, since it becomes a competition between who has an answer key for the test and who doesn't, or who remembers the most from last year. It's not even a competition to see who the best is.
I was actually pleased with the early awards ceremony, and I bet a lot of other schools were, too. Even with the insufficient numbers of proctors etc., Husky did do a very good job with running it.

ooh information about langham creek's invitational! I'll be waiting.


yeee water quality was bogus. the national rules explicitly say contests should not include testing information on macroinvertebrates (a big focus in the past years), and they tried to give us 50% of the test over that. I pointed that out during the test to the proctor and he acknowledged that there wasn't much that can be done, so that macroinvertebrate section was abandoned. still, the rest of the test was clearly over past rules so it was basically taking a test without notes and just based on memory


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