Page 1 of 8

Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 18th, 2014, 8:05 pm
by Astroknight
This forum is for prediction and discussion of the top 10 teams in C division this year. This is not meant to cause controversy, just topic for discussion. :D

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 18th, 2014, 9:06 pm
by chinesesushi
What are your predictions?

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 18th, 2014, 9:30 pm
by Astroknight
chinesesushi wrote:What are your predictions?


I don't know that much about C division, but I'll give it a go.
1. Harriton
2. Solon
3. Centerville
4. Troy (CA)
5. Seven Lakes
6. Fayetteville-Manlius
7. New Trier
8. LASA
9. Grand Haven
10. West-Windsor Plainsboro South

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 18th, 2014, 9:43 pm
by Crazy Puny Man
Not bad, but Adlai Stevenson needs to be up there, and you cannot ignore Mounds View

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 19th, 2014, 5:51 am
by EastStroudsburg13
I'm not sure you can put Harriton first in the nation when they didn't get first at regionals. They appear to have lost a bit from graduation and probably won't match last year's 2nd place. I would also put Mounds View in there, possibly replacing LASA.

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 19th, 2014, 7:50 am
by ckssv07
EastStroudsburg13 wrote:I'm not sure you can put Harriton first in the nation when they didn't get first at regionals. They appear to have lost a bit from graduation and probably won't match last year's 2nd place. I would also put Mounds View in there, possibly replacing LASA.

I don't think you should put Harriton first, but you can't take them out of the running just because they got second at Regionals by five points, considering that last year was also the only time they have won Regionals in the last ~6 years.

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 19th, 2014, 9:04 am
by zyzzyva980
C is going to be fascinating to watch this year. I don't have a lot of knowledge to their situations (given my distance) but I feel like both Harriton and Solon suffered some big losses with graduating seniors (or, in the latter case, retiring coaches). Mounds View did as well, from what I can tell (or at the very least they lost Luo, who did no small part in fueling their run to 7th). FM hasn't been as strong recently, and LASA hasn't exactly been a powerhouse (they didn't even make nats last year). Ward had the worst luck of the bunch, they won't be there. What does this mean? It's all up in the air. This might be the year that- pardon my DCI terminology*- a Carolina Crown-type finally makes a run to the top.

If I was still in high school, I'd totally say, "Watch out for Olathe North! They'll make waves this year" but unfortunately we don't have an infinite amount of time in high school to get better at the national level, and the core of our team graduated. (To any ON people reading this- make it to nats again and make me regret not saying the above)

*DCI (Drum Corps International) metaphor explained: In DCI, there are certain corps (such as, say, the Blue Devils) that win almost every year. The Blue Devils would represent Solon in this metaphor. Meanwhile, Carolina Crown is a corps that formed recently, had never won, but just managed to sneak into first and win a championship last season.

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 19th, 2014, 9:23 am
by Astroknight
ckssv07 wrote:
EastStroudsburg13 wrote:I'm not sure you can put Harriton first in the nation when they didn't get first at regionals. They appear to have lost a bit from graduation and probably won't match last year's 2nd place. I would also put Mounds View in there, possibly replacing LASA.

I don't think you should put Harriton first, but you can't take them out of the running just because they got second at Regionals by five points, considering that last year was also the only time they have won Regionals in the last ~6 years.


Alright guys, I'll try again.

1. Centerville
2. Troy (CA)
3. Solon
4. Seven Lakes
5. Grand Haven
6. Mounds View
7. Harriton
8. Adlai E. Stevenson
9. West Windsor-Plainsboro South
10. Fayetteville-Manlius

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 19th, 2014, 11:26 am
by MMeteorite1
Not even sure if Centerville makes it out of Ohio. With that being said, where does Munster, Indiana fit into the discussion?
Astroknight wrote:
ckssv07 wrote:
EastStroudsburg13 wrote:I'm not sure you can put Harriton first in the nation when they didn't get first at regionals. They appear to have lost a bit from graduation and probably won't match last year's 2nd place. I would also put Mounds View in there, possibly replacing LASA.

I don't think you should put Harriton first, but you can't take them out of the running just because they got second at Regionals by five points, considering that last year was also the only time they have won Regionals in the last ~6 years.


Alright guys, I'll try again.

1. Centerville
2. Troy (CA)
3. Solon
4. Seven Lakes
5. Grand Haven
6. Mounds View
7. Harriton
8. Adlai E. Stevenson
9. West Windsor-Plainsboro South
10. Fayetteville-Manlius

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 19th, 2014, 11:37 am
by iwonder
Having seen both Seven Lake's and LASA's performances this year, I'd definitely put Seven Lakes higher in that list (they've absolutely dominated Texas. like... they had a score of like 25 or something close in regionals, and they did pretty well at Wright State ;) ) However I'm not sure about LASA, they did fall last year, and while they've done better this year, I think it's a 50-50 on nationals for them and even then I'm not convinced they'd be top 10.

Now to oblige Z, if MY school get's to nationals for the first time in 5 years, we're going to win the whole thing :P (no. not really....)

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 19th, 2014, 11:41 am
by Astroknight
iwonder wrote:Having seen both Seven Lake's and LASA's performances this year, I'd definitely put Seven Lakes higher in that list (they've absolutely dominated Texas. like... they had a score of like 25 or something close in regionals, and they did pretty well at Wright State ;) ) However I'm not sure about LASA, they did fall last year, and while they've done better this year, I think it's a 50-50 on nationals for them and even then I'm not convinced they'd be top 10.

Now to oblige Z, if MY school get's to nationals for the first time in 5 years, we're going to win the whole thing :P (no. not really....)


I beg to differ. Though a score of 25 is basically unheard of and historic, we won't really know until State rolls around. How well did they do at the Wright State Invitational? I remember last year (at Wright State) Shady Side won, but ended up getting 11th at Nationals.

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 19th, 2014, 11:45 am
by chinesesushi
I don't think invitationals are a good judge of rankings, as it might not be as serious an actual competition (some teams might be holding back, etc.).

zyzzyva980 wrote:C is going to be fascinating to watch this year. I don't have a lot of knowledge to their situations (given my distance) but I feel like both Harriton and Solon suffered some big losses with graduating seniors (or, in the latter case, retiring coaches). Mounds View did as well, from what I can tell (or at the very least they lost Luo, who did no small part in fueling their run to 7th). FM hasn't been as strong recently, and LASA hasn't exactly been a powerhouse (they didn't even make nats last year). Ward had the worst luck of the bunch, they won't be there. What does this mean? It's all up in the air. This might be the year that- pardon my DCI terminology*- a Carolina Crown-type finally makes a run to the top.


What are your thoughts on Troy?

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 19th, 2014, 11:46 am
by iwonder
I believe they won at wright state? And I'll admit, it was an easy regional :P but I still think they've got a real shot of being top two or champion, but maybe it's just a Texas thing...

And of all the invites I'm sure wright state is as close as you can come to a 'serious' competition.

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 19th, 2014, 11:50 am
by EastStroudsburg13
ckssv07 wrote:
EastStroudsburg13 wrote:I'm not sure you can put Harriton first in the nation when they didn't get first at regionals. They appear to have lost a bit from graduation and probably won't match last year's 2nd place. I would also put Mounds View in there, possibly replacing LASA.

I don't think you should put Harriton first, but you can't take them out of the running just because they got second at Regionals by five points, considering that last year was also the only time they have won Regionals in the last ~6 years.

I understand what you're saying, I just don't think they're going to get 2nd again. They'll probably finish around 8th-4th, which is still great. Also, Harriton actually won regionals all three years between 2011-2013 (Source: Southeast Pennsylvania Wiki).

Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Posted: March 19th, 2014, 11:55 am
by Astroknight
iwonder wrote:I believe they won at wright state? And I'll admit, it was an easy regional :P but I still think they've got a real shot of being top two or champion, but maybe it's just a Texas thing...

And of all the invites I'm sure wright state is as close as you can come to a 'serious' competition.


I can totally agree with that. It was the first place I ever competed at, and it set the bar pretty high. And, coming from Tennessee, I haven't been to anywhere that comes even close to Wright State. I actually got third in my first event there :mrgreen: .