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gyourkoshaven wrote:But according to several former participants, in Can't Judge you are never required to actually identify what the powder is. You have to observe the properties of the powder and take a test based on what you learned during the testing session.
I did this event in '06; and thats right, you don't have to identify the powder, just note the properties. So overall, not that similar to scb, but still dealing with powders/unknowns etc.
We will probably get to know for sure September? Just my guess for when the rule packets usually come out. :?
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soccer_5456 wrote:
gyourkoshaven wrote:But according to several former participants, in Can't Judge you are never required to actually identify what the powder is. You have to observe the properties of the powder and take a test based on what you learned during the testing session.
I did this event in '06; and thats right, you don't have to identify the powder, just note the properties. So overall, not that similar to scb, but still dealing with powders/unknowns etc.
We will probably get to know for sure September? Just my guess for when the rule packets usually come out. :?
So there will be no testing involved with the event not really like sceince crimebusters
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No, there is testing involved. You do need to find if it is soluble, conductive, etc. However, you dont need to know a flow chart or anything like that. It is much more based on a wide knowledge of tests and how to conduct them, but not needing to know about certain powders, rather than knowledge of properties of specific powders in SCB.
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ah thanks for explaining this
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something like this http://www.tufts.edu/as/wright_center/p ... wr_key.pdf
i got that straight off the wiki
i should post this on the Can't Judge thread too..
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great job man thanks for finding the test
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Is there a Can't Judge thread yet? I didn't see one.

Is it just me, or would it possibly be better to just identify the powders mentally as fast as possible (especially if you already have the background in ID from SCB), and then write down all the appropriate properties? Wouldn't that be faster than actually doing all the observations?

Oh well, I'm going to be in C next year, with Forensics instead.
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There is no list of powders that they have to choose from, so they can give you anything. Also, it is probably much easier to just learn how to do the tests, rather than learn all of the properties for tons of different powders
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haven chuck wrote:There is no list of powders that they have to choose from, so they can give you anything.
Ah, okay, that's the part I was missing. Still, if you happen to realize it's, say, corn starch (since that's my favorite powder of all time- non-Newtonian fluid ftw), you could save yourself a lot of time by simply listing the properties of corn starch instead of testing them all.
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Yeah, i guess that is true.
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