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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby karatekid44 » June 22nd, 2009, 1:36 pm

It probably is. soccer, for the iodine HCI...were you talking about SCB or Can't Judge a Powder (CJAP)
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby kp9ssa » June 22nd, 2009, 3:43 pm

how will the incorporate environmental chem. into SCB
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby karatekid44 » June 22nd, 2009, 4:28 pm

What they will most likely do is give you a soil sample from the "crime scene" and tell you to test the ph. Then you will have to record your results, that is only a guestimate.
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby soccer_5456 » June 22nd, 2009, 5:20 pm

karatekid44 wrote:It probably is. soccer, for the iodine HCI...were you talking about SCB or Can't Judge a Powder (CJAP)


Can't Judge (CJAP) 8-)
I'l be in Division C though..so none of this affects me :(
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby karatekid44 » June 22nd, 2009, 5:23 pm

oh well that is no fun but i do not believe so.
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby kp9ssa » June 23rd, 2009, 6:51 am

wats the difference between can't judge a powder and crime busters
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby fmtiger124 » June 23rd, 2009, 6:55 am

kp9ssa wrote:wats the difference between can't judge a powder and crime busters

if you were to read the conversation that occured right before you posted this you would find out
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby SOninja » June 23rd, 2009, 3:32 pm

Crimebusters is only the best event to ever exist in our universe (in my opinion).

Can't Judge a Powder is an event where you make lots of observations but you don't identify the substance.
(dunno... never done it before. But it can't be better than crime because nothing is better than crime)
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby karatekid44 » June 23rd, 2009, 4:32 pm

Crime busters will still be here but probably the best people for CJAP would be the science crime busters people. It deals with powders, so basically w are doing the same thing for a different event.
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby soccer_5456 » July 8th, 2009, 8:47 am

its been pretty quiet for a long time..
who think the rules will change a bit next year, and how? assuming they do NOT incorporate env chem into SCB
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby fmtiger124 » July 8th, 2009, 1:11 pm

soccer_5456 wrote:its been pretty quiet for a long time..
who think the rules will change a bit next year, and how? assuming they do NOT incorporate env chem into SCB

well I think that there is a chance that the note sheets could go, for us although we welcomed them it actually hurt our studying and our knowledge, I ended up getting everything mixed up after I ended up relying on the sheet too much
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby soccer_5456 » July 9th, 2009, 11:30 am

Yeah..for me, I hated the resource page...because all of sudden, the event became so much easier for the less-competitive peoples. Without the resource page, you really have to have a good understanding to succeed.
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby genes_girl » July 9th, 2009, 3:09 pm

I COMPLETELY agree. Whenever people ask me for help you can tell if they have been relying on the resource page or not. It is much better to KNOW the event and use the page as backup or if you have a partner who doesn't know the event then to rely heavily on it. The first thing I always say is to be able to work without it and just put the basics on there. Plus if you know the event you are quicker to get it done and in these events time is important. It's ok to spend hours/days/weeks just running the powders and taking tests to learn everything. Looking it up isn't the same as actually seeing the results.
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby Phenylethylamine » July 9th, 2009, 6:38 pm

Well, in order to really be competitive, you couldn't rely on the resource page much. Honestly, that's true in most events where you get resources- I used to do Rocks & Minerals, and we barely touched our binder. We had all the information in there, but if we'd had to look up every question, we would never have finished the event. It's true that it does somewhat unfairly condense the skill range, and I don't think it's necessary at all, but it's not so terrible. It was also pretty useful when I was still learning the event as of Regionals this year :lol: We got 2nd to the much more experienced kid on our school's B team, take that as you will.
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Re: Crimebusters?

Postby soccer_5456 » July 9th, 2009, 7:48 pm

genes_girl wrote:I COMPLETELY agree. Whenever people ask me for help you can tell if they have been relying on the resource page or not. It is much better to KNOW the event and use the page as backup or if you have a partner who doesn't know the event then to rely heavily on it. The first thing I always say is to be able to work without it and just put the basics on there. Plus if you know the event you are quicker to get it done and in these events time is important. It's ok to spend hours/days/weeks just running the powders and taking tests to learn everything. Looking it up isn't the same as actually seeing the results.
Phenylethylamine wrote:Well, in order to really be competitive, you couldn't rely on the resource page much. Honestly, that's true in most events where you get resources- I used to do Rocks & Minerals, and we barely touched our binder. We had all the information in there, but if we'd had to look up every question, we would never have finished the event. It's true that it does somewhat unfairly condense the skill range, and I don't think it's necessary at all, but it's not so terrible. It was also pretty useful when I was still learning the event as of Regionals this year :lol: We got 2nd to the much more experienced kid on our school's B team, take that as you will.

Haha you guys took words out of my mouth. Yes, using the resource page for us would have crippled us more than helped us. Especially at nationals; those who were there can understand that even looking up something minor on our resource page would be wasting time. This was the 3rd year for me doing this event, so I had everything memorized..I think the only time we actually used our sheet for the ENTIRE 2009 season was when we needed plastic densities..
wait. forensics in C..does it have resource pages? :?
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