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Write It Do It B/C

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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby silverheart7 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 3:17 am

What are the major differences between Division B & C Write it Do it? As far as I can tell, the rules are similar, so is it the complexity of the model?
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby zyzzyva980 » Wed Aug 27, 2014 4:15 am

Pretty much. The competition will be stiffer, too. But the rules should remain the same.
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby Gemma W » Mon Sep 01, 2014 5:01 pm

To be honest there are probably bigger differences between regions/competitions than between divisions, but C is usually more complex. You're (hopefully) not going to see a lot of Legos or K'nex at C level, but then again who knows you might.
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby NoL617 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:23 pm

Does anyone have any tips on practicing? Any good ways to do it? Thanks! :D
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby GoofyFoofer » Tue Sep 09, 2014 10:31 pm

Yeah, by practicing with your WI/DI buddy! :D
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby hscmom » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:26 am

Actually that's the best answer - practice. Here are a couple of hints:

1) Use the same format each time. Each write up should look about the same.
2) In addition to practicing writing and building, take time to do a "post mortem" and find out what went wrong. Look at each thing different between the model and the build and then look at the instructions to see where things went wrong.
3) Also, make sure that you are on the same page with measurements. If I call this an inch: ----------------- and you call this an inch: ------- then any part of the build that had a distance or size in inches could really be off. One exercise I've done coaching is to have them "put two dots on a page 4 inches apart" or "draw a line that is 30 degrees from the line you just drew." It's a good "warm up" before practice.
4) Swap roles once or twice, as this gives the partner a little time to figure out what the other role is like. A writer who has built a few things will know better how to write. A builder who tries to write a time or two will see that it's a real challenge!
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby NoL617 » Wed Sep 10, 2014 1:48 am

What abbreviations do writers like to use? What abbreviations help doers?
I like only abbreviating colors like B for blue, Y for yellow, R for red, BK for black, G for green etc. That way my partner doesn't get confused from all of the different abbreviations. :?: :idea: ;)
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby hscmom » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:35 am

NoL617 wrote:What abbreviations do writers like to use? What abbreviations help doers?
I like only abbreviating colors like B for blue, Y for yellow, R for red, BK for black, G for green etc. That way my partner doesn't get confused from all of the different abbreviations. :?: :idea: ;)


I've coached this for a few years and have observed the following. OK, they are rather obvious but sometimes the obvious needs to be stated. I've seen students make these mistakes.

1) Don't bother making an abbreviations that you'll not use at least twice more.
2) Don't make your doer have to keep flipping back a few pages to remember that a is YSASWBTFOTC a yellow speckled arch shaped wood block that fits over the cylinder. Just call it an arch instead.
3) Measurements are good candidates for abbreviations.

You get the idea!
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby hscmom » Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:37 am

And as you practice, hopefully the doer will indicate which abbreviations were easy to remember as he built and which ones were confusing. Each WIDI pair will be different. What works for this team won't for that team. That's why it's hard to give general hints for this event.

Except, of course, practice!
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby NoL617 » Thu Sep 11, 2014 2:07 am

hscmom wrote:
NoL617 wrote:What abbreviations do writers like to use? What abbreviations help doers?
I like only abbreviating colors like B for blue, Y for yellow, R for red, BK for black, G for green etc. That way my partner doesn't get confused from all of the different abbreviations. :?: :idea: ;)


I've coached this for a few years and have observed the following. OK, they are rather obvious but sometimes the obvious needs to be stated. I've seen students make these mistakes.

1) Don't bother making an abbreviations that you'll not use at least twice more.
2) Don't make your doer have to keep flipping back a few pages to remember that a is YSASWBTFOTC a yellow speckled arch shaped wood block that fits over the cylinder. Just call it an arch instead.
3) Measurements are good candidates for abbreviations.

You get the idea!

Great! Thanks! Yeah, I have had it where people say things like YSASWBTFOTC. It doesn't help at all, and only makes it confusing. Thanks again!

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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby GoofyFoofer » Sat Sep 27, 2014 5:48 pm

NoL617 wrote:What abbreviations do writers like to use? What abbreviations help doers?
I like only abbreviating colors like B for blue, Y for yellow, R for red, BK for black, G for green etc. That way my partner doesn't get confused from all of the different abbreviations. :?: :idea: ;)

I suggest that you might not want to rely on color-coding pieces, as the doer's pieces might be different colors than the original structure's materials.
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby hscmom » Sun Sep 28, 2014 2:12 pm

GoofyFoofer wrote:
NoL617 wrote:What abbreviations do writers like to use? What abbreviations help doers?
I like only abbreviating colors like B for blue, Y for yellow, R for red, BK for black, G for green etc. That way my partner doesn't get confused from all of the different abbreviations. :?: :idea: ;)

I suggest that you might not want to rely on color-coding pieces, as the doer's pieces might be different colors than the original structure's materials.


While I agree that you don't want to rely only on color for abbreviations, I would not assume that color doesn't count. At a few of our regional tournaments, the writers were told that "bead color doesn't matter and the doers might have different colors." But at other tournaments, color DID matter as the scoring rubric required that the red block went here and the blue block went there. If the writers' supervisor doesn't mention, it only takes a few seconds to ask, "In past tournaments color didn't matter. What is it today?"
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby GoofyFoofer » Sun Sep 28, 2014 3:51 pm

Yeah, it's' real confusing. I wonder if they'll tell us at the competition.
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby hscmom » Sun Sep 28, 2014 11:56 pm

GoofyFoofer wrote:Yeah, it's' real confusing. I wonder if they'll tell us at the competition.


With the exception of the very rare grumpy supervisor, most everyone in SO (coaches, tournament directors, and event supervisors) all want the students to do well and have a positive experience.

So, I suggest that you use your best manners and, if you are the writer, ask the supervisor about whether or not color is important. If the supervisor decides not to answer (maybe you're the last hour of testing and he figures that giving the answer to your group of writers where the other earlier groups of writers don't hear the answer...) then the safe bet is to describe pieces by all attributes, not skipping color.

If you are the doer, trust your writer to ask the supervisor in his room and communicate to you. One thing you two might want to do is assume color IS important. It will be your default. Then, if your writer discovers that color is not important, then early in the build the writer can say "any color" when describing a piece. You'll then know that it's not.
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