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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby Mr_Lund » December 7th, 2014, 11:39 am

Greetings Writers and Doers!

I am a coach, and have attached a strategy summary that I will be sharing with my WIDI-ers. I'm posting it here for two main reasons:

1) Olympians new to the event may find it as a helpful resource.

2) Seasoned WIDI veterans, if you could, please take a look at it and offer whatever feedback you have for me. What are some good points I bring up, and what are some things I missed and/or should add to it?

Many, many thanks for any help you can offer!

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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby samlan16 » December 8th, 2014, 2:38 pm

Mr_Lund wrote:Greetings Writers and Doers!

I am a coach, and have attached a strategy summary that I will be sharing with my WIDI-ers. I'm posting it here for two main reasons:

1) Olympians new to the event may find it as a helpful resource.

2) Seasoned WIDI veterans, if you could, please take a look at it and offer whatever feedback you have for me. What are some good points I bring up, and what are some things I missed and/or should add to it?

Many, many thanks for any help you can offer!

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You certainly covered the important stuff, but one thing that our team struggles with is size. Whenever there are multiple items of the same shape, the writer needs to describe the precise size, color, material, and other unusual characteristics. I use SCAM (size, color, add-ons, material) to remember what I need to describe to avoid ambiguities.
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby aditi » January 2nd, 2015, 10:36 am

samlan16 wrote:
Mr_Lund wrote:Greetings Writers and Doers!

I am a coach, and have attached a strategy summary that I will be sharing with my WIDI-ers. I'm posting it here for two main reasons:

1) Olympians new to the event may find it as a helpful resource.

2) Seasoned WIDI veterans, if you could, please take a look at it and offer whatever feedback you have for me. What are some good points I bring up, and what are some things I missed and/or should add to it?

Many, many thanks for any help you can offer!

Ever Forward,

Mr. Lund
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You certainly covered the important stuff, but one thing that our team struggles with is size. Whenever there are multiple items of the same shape, the writer needs to describe the precise size, color, material, and other unusual characteristics. I use SCAM (size, color, add-ons, material) to remember what I need to describe to avoid ambiguities.


Thank you Mr. Lund. I may not be a seasoned WIDI veteran, as this is my first year of WIDI, but I do have a small interjection to the diagram in the document. An important point to add is which way the triangle is faced. Meaning, if the right angle is faced to the left or if it is faced to the right for points could be removed for that. I edited the document and added a few important details in red, which composes for about one page. I included more information about abbreviations and how to trim down sentences all the way.

Also, another idea is to add sections to the document, or two columns, one for the writers and one for the doers. That way, advice can be divided and all the information packed into those 7 pages can be easier and more accessible to read. Finally, for the best document for WIDI, people can take turns editing the document and making their edits a different color. Once Mr. Lund likes their changes, he can make them black Image Gallery

I really liked the idea of comparing each others hands and coming up with rules to use. That was an interesting idea and I will certainly be using that. Thank you!!

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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby aditi » February 1st, 2015, 1:13 pm

Are we allowed to use carrots and/or underlines in our writing?
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Postby azuritemalachite » February 1st, 2015, 4:10 pm

[aditi] wrote:Are we allowed to use carrots and/or underlines in our writing?

carrots, yes, underlines, no
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby aditi » February 1st, 2015, 6:41 pm

Really? I understand that we are not allowed to use underlines because it is not on the standard keyboard. Carrots are Shift-6 on the keyboard. However, at the Solon Invitational in Ohio, our team for WIDI was tiered down because we had 4 carrot symbols...Does this carrot rule vary from supervisor to supervisor?
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Postby bernard » February 1st, 2015, 6:54 pm

[aditi] wrote:Really? I understand that we are not allowed to use underlines because it is not on the standard keyboard. Carrots are Shift-6 on the keyboard. However, at the Solon Invitational in Ohio, our team for WIDI was tiered down because we had 4 carrot symbols...Does this carrot rule vary from supervisor to supervisor?

No rules about which characters are allowed should vary between tournaments. The rules allow any characters that can be typed on a 101-key keyboard with or without the shift key. Typing 'shift+6' produces the '^' symbol so it is allowed.
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby aditi » February 1st, 2015, 7:34 pm

bernard wrote:
[aditi] wrote:Really? I understand that we are not allowed to use underlines because it is not on the standard keyboard. Carrots are Shift-6 on the keyboard. However, at the Solon Invitational in Ohio, our team for WIDI was tiered down because we had 4 carrot symbols...Does this carrot rule vary from supervisor to supervisor?

No rules about which characters are allowed should vary between tournaments. The rules allow any characters that can be typed on a 101-key keyboard with or without the shift key. Typing 'shift+6' produces the '^' symbol so it is allowed.


That is exactly what our WIDI team thought. Will this occur at Regionals or States or Nats? I'm not sure which state created WIDI at Solon, but if what you're saying is right, then they didn't do it right.
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Postby bernard » February 1st, 2015, 8:08 pm

[aditi] wrote:
bernard wrote:
[aditi] wrote:Really? I understand that we are not allowed to use underlines because it is not on the standard keyboard. Carrots are Shift-6 on the keyboard. However, at the Solon Invitational in Ohio, our team for WIDI was tiered down because we had 4 carrot symbols...Does this carrot rule vary from supervisor to supervisor?

No rules about which characters are allowed should vary between tournaments. The rules allow any characters that can be typed on a 101-key keyboard with or without the shift key. Typing 'shift+6' produces the '^' symbol so it is allowed.


That is exactly what our WIDI team thought. Will this occur at Regionals or States or Nats? I'm not sure which state created WIDI at Solon, but if what you're saying is right, then they didn't do it right.

For every official tournament I've competed in, we have never heard back about our raw scores or other details (such as why we would were tiered, etc.). I think it is best to avoid things you think might get you tiered or disqualified. Think about what everyone else might be using and what might be questionable (to someone who may have only read the rules once before running the event). There's no doubt everyone will be using alphabet letters. When in doubt, don't use it.
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Postby aditi » February 2nd, 2015, 12:46 pm

Well...It was an invitational...Every team got all of their test papers back.
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Postby bernard » February 2nd, 2015, 12:56 pm

[aditi] wrote:Well...It was an invitational...Every team got all of their test papers back.

That probably won't happen at official tournaments (regional, state, national) so you won't be able to appeal any incorrect grading since you wouldn't know about it. I would avoid doing anything I think the event supervisor might wrongly score. I hope what happened to you happens rarely and that official tournaments make sure each event supervisor understands each event well (though that would be rather difficult to ensure).
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Postby flash2705 » February 9th, 2015, 6:55 am

is this going to be really hard because i have 10 days to my competition. and isn't underline ctrl+u?
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Postby bernard » February 9th, 2015, 7:54 am

flash2705 wrote:is this going to be really hard because i have 10 days to my competition. and isn't underline ctrl+u?

Please read the rules. 2.b. allows characters that can be produced on a keyboard by "pressing a single key or a single key in combination with the shift key" so underlines are not explicitly allowed. I could imagine some event supervisors allowed underlines but since it isn't allowed by the rules I wouldn't use them.

If you haven't practiced this event with your partner, I highly recommend doing it. I didn't realize how difficult this event could be until the first time I practiced with my partner (which thankfully wasn't at the competition). There are a lot of strategies that can make your writing more understandable and efficient. It really depends on the writer, but having good communication between the writer and the doer is important.
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Postby tle990 » February 22nd, 2015, 3:15 pm

I was practicing today and used a Lego piece that reminded me of a chair. It was shaped like this: I_ Would it be ok to refer to it as the "chair" piece, or would that be considered using code since it's not really a chair?

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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby samlan16 » February 22nd, 2015, 4:21 pm

tle990 wrote:I was practicing today and used a Lego piece that reminded me of a chair. It was shaped like this: I_ Would it be ok to refer to it as the "chair" piece, or would that be considered using code since it's not really a chair?

I would call it a chair piece if it's intended to be a chair for Lego people; otherwise, play it safe and call it a chair-shaped piece.
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