Protein Modeling C

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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby alwaysfaith » March 2nd, 2015, 6:05 pm

Has anyone actually done this event before? Any tips/what to expect

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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby boomvroomshroom » March 2nd, 2015, 9:12 pm

Has anyone actually done this event before? Any tips/what to expect
There's models and rules on the soinc website for you to look at. It's mostly straightforward. This event is actually a combo of engineering, study, and lab; there's a model you have to build beforehand, and on-site model, and a written test (at least, that's how it's supposed to go; some proctors don't read the rules and do it wrong, but oh well).

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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby hscmom » March 4th, 2015, 5:59 am

My son is doing PM now and my daughter, now in college, did this years ago. All three people will keep busy all hour if the event is run to rules. Expect the test to be shorter than most SO tests (which means mistakes cost even more). It wasn't hard for our current team to fill the info sheets.

PM really benefits from teamwork so make a strategy for your threesome that allows each of you to focus on one task during competition, but also allow all three of you to double-check the others' work (so perhaps you are the folder - immediately start folding the onsite and when you are done, look over the answers the test-taker wrote).

This event is really exciting because it is dealing with cutting edge technology and discoveries. We're going to see a lot more of this in the future and many lives will be improved and lengthened with protein and gene manipulation.
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby Dhruvster » March 4th, 2015, 5:08 pm

Hey so I was looking at the old forums and it seems that the pre builds are graded very harshly at nats to the point that the difference between 1st and 2nd was be less than a point. Does anyone who has been to nats have any advice on how to nail the creative additions and base protein to not lose dumb points and of the like.

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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby Dhruvster » March 4th, 2015, 5:14 pm

Also is everyone using both sides of the notecard or just one? I wasn't really sure

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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby Dhruvster » March 4th, 2015, 5:37 pm

Has anyone actually done this event before? Any tips/what to expect
One of the things which really surprised me is how nitpicky the graders are of this event. At the more competitive tournaments it really comes down who has the most perfect model and get an extra half a point. The other thing is that the tests are really what decides who wins. Its only 10 MC and 3 short answers and worth 30 points/100.

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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby fozendog » March 4th, 2015, 5:38 pm

Also is everyone using both sides of the notecard or just one? I wasn't really sure
This is a great question, I will send a FAQ...
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby Dhruvster » March 4th, 2015, 6:13 pm

Also is everyone using both sides of the notecard or just one? I wasn't really sure
This is a great question, I will send a FAQ...
I sent one and all they replied was "See general rule 1" so I assume that is a yes? lol

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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby bernard » March 4th, 2015, 6:19 pm

Also is everyone using both sides of the notecard or just one? I wasn't really sure
This is a great question, I will send a FAQ...
I sent one and all they replied was "See general rule 1" so I assume that is a yes? lol
The rules don't explicitly require that you use only one side or both sides, so it seems like they don't care about how many sides you use (so you can use both).
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Re: Protein Modeling C

Postby chalker » March 4th, 2015, 7:14 pm

Also is everyone using both sides of the notecard or just one? I wasn't really sure
This is a great question, I will send a FAQ...
I sent one and all they replied was "See general rule 1" so I assume that is a yes? lol
Typically when we reply like that, it's to point out that most things are allowed by default. You should familiarize yourself with the general rules if you haven't:
http://soinc.org/ethics_rules

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