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Postby Unome » March 16th, 2015, 4:14 pm

party_poison wrote:Hi! I'm new to this event and I was wondering if we could use letters and numbers to show compounds such as H2O, CO2, or NaCl. Or is that illegal in this event?

I'm not in this event, but I believe the rules refer to this and related symbols specifically.
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Postby UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F » March 16th, 2015, 4:33 pm

party_poison wrote:Hi! I'm new to this event and I was wondering if we could use letters and numbers to show compounds such as H2O, CO2, or NaCl. Or is that illegal in this event?


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Postby Verdigris » March 16th, 2015, 5:17 pm

party_poison wrote:Hi! I'm new to this event and I was wondering if we could use letters and numbers to show compounds such as H2O, CO2, or NaCl. Or is that illegal in this event?


I honestly don't know, but I would err on the side of caution.
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Postby Adi1008 » March 16th, 2015, 7:06 pm

Unome wrote:
party_poison wrote:Hi! I'm new to this event and I was wondering if we could use letters and numbers to show compounds such as H2O, CO2, or NaCl. Or is that illegal in this event?

I'm not in this event, but I believe the rules refer to this and related symbols specifically.


I don't think you can, as they're letters and numbers
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Postby scienceswimmer4 » March 17th, 2015, 10:13 am

I know this may be silly, but would anyone like to share the number of correct terms they have been getting on average? I'm just curious. ;)
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Postby Skink » March 17th, 2015, 10:23 am

party_poison wrote:Hi! I'm new to this event and I was wondering if we could use letters and numbers to show compounds such as H2O, CO2, or NaCl. Or is that illegal in this event?

Section 3.c. of the rules disallows this. Thus, you'd need to have an image for each of those common substances, which shouldn't be too difficult! They're part of everyday life making them sketch-able. It's not like they're going to ask for 'phosphorus trichloride' or 'para-dichlorobenzene'. Now, there are some things that I do find are mildly challenging to draw without letters and numbers, think 'unit' or 'quantitative'. Still, it all can be done.

scienceswimmer4 wrote:I know this may be silly, but would anyone like to share the number of correct terms they have been getting on average? I'm just curious. ;)

In my experience, this is a generally low-scoring event. The high scoring teams have not only cracked the event but put in the time, which is commendable.

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Postby GoldenKnight1 » March 17th, 2015, 11:53 am

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scienceswimmer4 wrote:I know this may be silly, but would anyone like to share the number of correct terms they have been getting on average? I'm just curious. ;)

In my experience, this is a generally low-scoring event. The high scoring teams have not only cracked the event but put in the time, which is commendable.


The list of terms can change this by a lot but below is a list of the scores from the C-Division list used at the 2010 PA State competition. As Skink said it was clear the teams that put in a lot of work versus those that did not prepare as much for this event. Also don't forget that no matter what your opinion is of this event (I love it) that it is worth just as many points to your team as any other event and thus should get the same level of practice from your team.

1st place-20 words
2nd place-20 words
3rd place-14 words
4th place to 5th place-11 words
6th place-10 words
7th place -9 words
8th place to 15th place-8 words
16th place to 17th place-7 words
18th place to 24th place-6 words
25th place to 28th place- 5 words
29th place-4 words
30th place to 31st place-3 words
32nd place to 35th place-2 words

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Postby hscmom » March 17th, 2015, 11:55 am

scienceswimmer4 wrote:I know this may be silly, but would anyone like to share the number of correct terms they have been getting on average? I'm just curious. ;)


That's a hard question to answer because some lists are ridiculously easy and some amazingly hard. We practice weekly and when we do mock tourneys, we tend to get to about term 16 with about four passes. Then again, I am the one designing the words lists and I think I subconsciously aim for about the same level of difficulty. I try to throw in some easy words (we call them "two-second words"), harder words (but still appropriate for a middle schooler) and some crazy-hard college-level words (just to see how well they make decisions about whether to attack them, whether to pass, etc.) It's reasonable to expect a tournament to throw easy, hard, and beyond-hard at a team, but it's also reasonable to expect the list to really be ANYTHING science.

At the competition 10 days ago, they got gold. Yeah! They identified either 19 or 20 terms, passed on 3 (which were really words they knew), and didn't see the last 1 or 2. Seems like the list (from what they remember) was a good mix of easy and hard terms.
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Postby scienceswimmer4 » March 17th, 2015, 7:03 pm

hscmom wrote:At the competition 10 days ago, they got gold. Yeah! They identified either 19 or 20 terms, passed on 3 (which were really words they knew), and didn't see the last 1 or 2. Seems like the list (from what they remember) was a good mix of easy and hard terms.


Good for them! This event is pretty difficult, but very exciting and intense.

My partners and I got gold up here in Northern Colorado as well. I wonder if we had the same set :lol: Probably not though.
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Postby hscmom » March 18th, 2015, 2:00 pm

scienceswimmer4 wrote:
hscmom wrote:At the competition 10 days ago, they got gold. Yeah! They identified either 19 or 20 terms, passed on 3 (which were really words they knew), and didn't see the last 1 or 2. Seems like the list (from what they remember) was a good mix of easy and hard terms.


Good for them! This event is pretty difficult, but very exciting and intense.

My partners and I got gold up here in Northern Colorado as well. I wonder if we had the same set :lol: Probably not though.


I was also sort of wondering if it was the same set. Was your first word epicenter?
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Postby UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F » March 18th, 2015, 5:52 pm

Well, for this year's PA regionals: 5 terms = 7th place out of 25! :lol:

EDIT: I posted something helpful here,
I use this website for science words.

and I don't feel like copying and pasting my url, so please click on the link to my post. Cheers!

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Postby GoldenKnight1 » March 23rd, 2015, 11:43 am

UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Well, for this year's PA regionals: 5 terms = 7th place out of 25! :lol:


I would have commented sooner about this but since the same list was used at both the NE-PA and CE-PA competitions I didn't want to talk about it too much. The high score from all three was 20 terms correct. I will post the list in the test exchange for all to practice from.

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Postby UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F » March 23rd, 2015, 12:12 pm

GoldenKnight1 wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Well, for this year's PA regionals: 5 terms = 7th place out of 25! :lol:


I would have commented sooner about this but since the same list was used at both the NE-PA and CE-PA competitions I didn't want to talk about it too much. The high score from all three was 20 terms correct. I will post the list in the test exchange for all to practice from.
That was SE-PA. Sorry for not clarifying.

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Postby GoldenKnight1 » March 23rd, 2015, 1:18 pm

UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:
GoldenKnight1 wrote:
UTF-8 U+6211 U+662F wrote:Well, for this year's PA regionals: 5 terms = 7th place out of 25! :lol:


I would have commented sooner about this but since the same list was used at both the NE-PA and CE-PA competitions I didn't want to talk about it too much. The high score from all three was 20 terms correct. I will post the list in the test exchange for all to practice from.
That was SE-PA. Sorry for not clarifying.


Yes. Same list for both SE, CE, and NE PA. I was the guy showing the terms in SE PA. SE had a high score of 9, NE high score was 10, CE high score was 20 with 2nd and 3rd both in double digits.

Central PA used a different list that had something like 5 win the competition.

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Postby hscmom » March 23rd, 2015, 7:41 pm

GoldenKnight1, Could you wait til 4/2 to post the list?
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