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Re: Unofficial Rankings: Div. C

Postby Unome » March 13th, 2015, 5:09 pm

TBH it's hard to define top 5. All of the schools are ~equal in terms of intelligence/preparation. A lot of it is luck, too; there's always those events that you win at state and then completely screw up in at Nationals because of things out of your control. Top 5 is determined more by how few events you messed up than how many events you won :D
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Sounds about right to me; last year Meads Mill got 4th in B; they had top 20 in all but two events, which were both in the 50s.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings: Div. C

Postby c-trast » March 13th, 2015, 6:11 pm

Top 10 for Melville would be amazing...coming back from what happened last year. Of course, they haven't even had states yet. Let's see if they can beat FM this weekend.

Solon will probably redeem themselves.

Also, didn't see anyone mention Harriton.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings: Div. C

Postby Unome » March 14th, 2015, 11:07 am

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Mounds View got a 37 at states!
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Impressive! (I think that's a 5ish point improvement over last year)
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Re: Unofficial Rankings: Div. C

Postby InfiniCuber » March 14th, 2015, 2:46 pm

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Mounds View got a 37 at states!
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Impressive! (I think that's a 5ish point improvement over last year)
At that low of a score, it's hard to improve any more, so even 5 points is pretty great haha!I think they should place very high at Nats.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings: Div. C

Postby boomvroomshroom » March 14th, 2015, 8:14 pm

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Mounds View got a 37 at states!
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Impressive! (I think that's a 5ish point improvement over last year)
At that low of a score, it's hard to improve any more, so even 5 points is pretty great haha!I think they should place very high at Nats.
That's awesome! At our states, we're lucky to get in the 70s range :O

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Re: Unofficial Rankings: Div. C

Postby varunscs11 » March 14th, 2015, 9:46 pm

It's really difficult to predict who will be in the Top 10 since there are so many amazing teams but I would wager the Top 10 to be....
Solon
Seven Lakes
Fayetteville
Mounds View
Troy
Mira Loma
LASA (if we make it)
Harriton
And this is in no particular order
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Re: Unofficial Rankings: Div. C

Postby c-trast » March 14th, 2015, 10:47 pm

So Columbia's solid.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings: Div. C

Postby blhab » March 20th, 2015, 9:58 pm

Top 10:
1. Mounds View - 37 at states, wow. And they barely placed individually last year yet had no bombs but I think they will have many more medals and no bombs.
2. Troy - Sort of hesitant putting them here due to 'weak' MIT performance but last year's National Champions.
3. Harriton - Similar performance at regionals, we'll see how they perform at State (usually the same as their power region in PA)
4. Mira Loma - Really no clue, I've heard they are doing well
5. Solon - Decent performances throughout the year
6. Seven Lakes - Performed well in Texas Invitationals and well at MIT
7. Munster - Wow @ Wright State Performance
8. Acton Boxborough - Wow @ MIT Performance, seems much better than their national placing from last year
9. LASA - despite winning both MIT and Wright State, I feel that they may not feel completely at home after missing out on Nationals the last two years, they could possibly beat Seven Lakes at State but reverse at nats
10. Columbia - Won New York States, and most of the time NY places a C Division Team in the top 10

I feel that after the top 3 or 4 teams this year maybe somewhat close and after that there will be a lot of close teams from 5 - 14

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Re: Unofficial Rankings: Div. C

Postby John Richardsim » March 21st, 2015, 8:02 am

2. Troy - Sort of hesitant putting them here due to 'weak' MIT performance but last year's National Champions.
8. Acton Boxborough - Wow @ MIT Performance, seems much better than their national placing from last year
I think using the MIT invite to base your predictions for nationals in this manner is a bit flawed, because, well, let me direct your attention to a map of the continental US:
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Re: Unofficial Rankings: Div. C

Postby blhab » March 21st, 2015, 8:31 am

Point 1:
Troy MIT Results:
Air Trajectory - 4
Bridge Building - 4
Bungee Drop - 3
Compound - 6
It's about Time - 1
Mission Possible - 35 (maybe, if someone from Troy could confirm, the brought a worse device, or it just screwed up)
Scrambler - 19 (Likely due to their error in reaching the desired point)
Wright Stuff - 20 (Multitude of reasons could explain this)

Troy did well in all of their events that had some building portion and lost to both LASA (hasn't been to nationals in two years and traveled a far distance as well and Solon)

Second Point:
I don't completely understand how distance should affect that much, seeing how nationals is in a different location each year that many teams have to fly to. Secondly, Seven Lakes won Wright State last year and LASA has won both Wright State and MIT this year so what are you trying to say about distance?

Third Point:
Acton Boxborough did extremely well. They placed two teams in many of the events at MIT and placed overall 4 and 6. That leads me to believe that they had split their people among the two teams and, therefore, when "stacked," they will do very, very well.

So, I know I'm attacking your logic, but assuming I don't know the distance was a comment seemed to belittle me so I had to respond. Please let me know why you believe distance is such a big factor so that I can understand better.


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