National test discussion

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Re: National test discussion

Postby awesome90220 » May 20th, 2015, 2:44 pm

Meteorology was great though. As long as you studied everything on the rules sheet thoroughly, it was pretty easy. I liked how they had a survey at the end which asked questions such as: the difficulty of the test, too many, too little or just the right amount of questions, and any comments that you had.
I disagree; easy tests are never good. It may have did a decent job of covering most of the topics in the rules, but the complexity of the majority of the questions were about what someone should expect from an invitational or regional test. I don't know how many total points there was on that test, but I do remember there being less than 70 questions (which is nothing when considering the general rule of thumb for the lengths of tests (twice as many points as the number of teams at that competition)).
It was either 58 or 56 questions, and I remember it being almost the exact same test as the one we took at state. There were literally questions copied word for word.

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Re: National test discussion

Postby Unome » May 20th, 2015, 3:24 pm

Meteorology was great though. As long as you studied everything on the rules sheet thoroughly, it was pretty easy. I liked how they had a survey at the end which asked questions such as: the difficulty of the test, too many, too little or just the right amount of questions, and any comments that you had.
I disagree; easy tests are never good. It may have did a decent job of covering most of the topics in the rules, but the complexity of the majority of the questions were about what someone should expect from an invitational or regional test. I don't know how many total points there was on that test, but I do remember there being less than 70 questions (which is nothing when considering the general rule of thumb for the lengths of tests (twice as many points as the number of teams at that competition)).
It was either 58 or 56 questions, and I remember it being almost the exact same test as the one we took at state. There were literally questions copied word for word.

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Re: National test discussion

Postby Skink » May 20th, 2015, 4:45 pm

I'm not sure how I feel about short exit surveys. On one hand, I like supervisors to get feedback. On the other hand, I'd hate to risk participants who rate them poorly to get stricken back (or the reverse!).

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Re: National test discussion

Postby awesome90220 » May 20th, 2015, 5:58 pm

I'm not sure how I feel about short exit surveys. On one hand, I like supervisors to get feedback. On the other hand, I'd hate to risk participants who rate them poorly to get stricken back (or the reverse!).
While I was somewhat scared that I would be punished for any negative comments I made, I did believe that the people who took the test as a whole should have the opportunity to make corrections to things that they found as a group to be unjust or not national standards.
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Re: National test discussion

Postby chalker » May 20th, 2015, 6:26 pm

I'm not sure how I feel about short exit surveys. On one hand, I like supervisors to get feedback. On the other hand, I'd hate to risk participants who rate them poorly to get stricken back (or the reverse!).
At Nationals, the event supervisors don't tabulate the exit surveys, rather the committee chair does.

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Re: National test discussion

Postby samlan16 » May 20th, 2015, 6:40 pm

I think everyone should not be literally asking Chalker for every single score available. You noscoped the guy, okay fine. If the nats people all decide to release it it's on them :P But honestly, it is not yo, and should not be, essential to see the scores for everything (even builds). Sure, some people like AIRHORNS for motivation, but please try to be reasonable when asking Chalker stuff, as we all know he's a busy noscoper. ;). Just keep to the discussions of what the tests were like please, including whether or not Doritos and Mtn Dew were distributed :P.

Wait a minute. There are 46 events. 4+6=10. The national tournament will have started 10 days ago as of May 24. 24 is a multiple of 3. Triangles have 3 sides. Fermi Questions confirmed.

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Re: National test discussion

Postby lumosityfan » May 20th, 2015, 6:47 pm

Also, keep in mind that the national test scores and tests will be released on a CD next year.
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Re: National test discussion

Postby RontgensWallaby » May 20th, 2015, 7:33 pm

I think everyone should not be literally asking Chalker for every single score available. You noscoped the guy, okay fine. If the nats people all decide to release it it's on them :P But honestly, it is not yo, and should not be, essential to see the scores for everything (even builds). Sure, some people like AIRHORNS for motivation, but please try to be reasonable when asking Chalker stuff, as we all know he's a busy noscoper. ;). Just keep to the discussions of what the tests were like please, including whether or not Doritos and Mtn Dew were distributed :P.

Wait a minute. There are 46 events. 4+6=10. The national tournament will have started 10 days ago as of May 24. 24 is a multiple of 3. Triangles have 3 sides. Fermi Questions confirmed.

And some more edits.
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Re: National test discussion

Postby samlan16 » May 21st, 2015, 10:57 am

I think everyone should not be literally asking Chalker for every single score available. You noscoped the guy, okay fine. If the nats people all decide to release it it's on them :P But honestly, it is not yo, and should not be, essential to see the scores for everything (even builds). Sure, some people like AIRHORNS for motivation, but please try to be reasonable when asking Chalker stuff, as we all know he's a busy noscoper. ;). Just keep to the discussions of what the tests were like please, including whether or not Doritos and Mtn Dew were distributed :P.

Wait a minute. There are 46 events. 4+6=10. The national tournament will have started 10 days ago as of May 24. 24 is a multiple of 3. Triangles have 3 sides. Fermi Questions confirmed.

And some more edits.
Was that you who "MLGified" the original post?
No, that was clearly the original post.
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Re: National test discussion

Postby Skink » May 21st, 2015, 3:05 pm

I'm not sure how I feel about short exit surveys. On one hand, I like supervisors to get feedback. On the other hand, I'd hate to risk participants who rate them poorly to get stricken back (or the reverse!).
At Nationals, the event supervisors don't tabulate the exit surveys, rather the committee chair does.
Thanks for the clarification. That's not a bad system.


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