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brayden box wrote:Maybe they also judge the experiments based an creativity? :?: I have the same problem.
Absolutely not. Take a look at the standardized rubric on soinc.org before speculating.
Best suggestion is to up the level of your writing. While also including every thing on the rubric also focus on making sure everything you write flows and is concise. Many parts of the rubric allocate points to the general quality of writing. If you have had the chance to grade experimental design reports (which not many people do) it helps to see how you write something can impact scores.
Yes, while there is no requirement to make your writing more mature, proctors would like to have a smooth paper to read after several dry ones. It will not directly impact your score, but you may win brownie points.

Also, here is the 2016 rubric, which has been updated to reflect the new maximum score of 10 points for the graph. It appears that some people are still confused about the B/C statistics being merged because the section is still labeled to clarify that both divisions have the same requirements.
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So, basically, you want to write as much as you can, but still keeping it scientific?
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brayden box wrote:So, basically, you want to write as much as you can, but still keeping it scientific?
Not necessarily. The key is to achieve quality more so than quantity, meaning that if you are concise but to the point, you can still get full credit. However, keep in mind that you must finish every section to be competitive. I would recommend getting with your ExpD group and devising a standard format for each section such that you can adapt it to all experiments that come your way.
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We meet about 8 or 10 times a year, separately from the usual once a week. Thanks for the help! :D
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samlan16 wrote:
brayden box wrote:So, basically, you want to write as much as you can, but still keeping it scientific?
Not necessarily. The key is to achieve quality more so than quantity, meaning that if you are concise but to the point, you can still get full credit. However, keep in mind that you must finish every section to be competitive. I would recommend getting with your ExpD group and devising a standard format for each section such that you can adapt it to all experiments that come your way.
This is very true. Be concise. No proctor wants to read a college essay for every section on the rubric. Say everything you need to say as quickly and concisely as possible. Writing "pretty" doesn't simply mean writing more; often, it means quite the contrary.

That being said, the most important thing is making sure you have all the information necessary on the paper. Cover everything on the rubric first, worry about how you write later. In fact, you're in B division. Don't even worry about your writing now, at least until the state or national level. It is most important to get all the information on the page.

Also, if you're getting consistently in the top 5, there is no problem. You are doing excellent work.
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zyzzyva980 wrote: This is very true. Be concise. No proctor wants to read a college essay for every section on the rubric. Say everything you need to say as quickly and concisely as possible. Writing "pretty" doesn't simply mean writing more; often, it means quite the contrary.

That being said, the most important thing is making sure you have all the information necessary on the paper. Cover everything on the rubric first, worry about how you write later. In fact, you're in B division. Don't even worry about your writing now, at least until the state or national level. It is most important to get all the information on the page.

Also, if you're getting consistently in the top 5, there is no problem. You are doing excellent work.
So when you are in States, ( which I have been) you do want to write more?
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brayden box wrote:
zyzzyva980 wrote: This is very true. Be concise. No proctor wants to read a college essay for every section on the rubric. Say everything you need to say as quickly and concisely as possible. Writing "pretty" doesn't simply mean writing more; often, it means quite the contrary.

That being said, the most important thing is making sure you have all the information necessary on the paper. Cover everything on the rubric first, worry about how you write later. In fact, you're in B division. Don't even worry about your writing now, at least until the state or national level. It is most important to get all the information on the page.

Also, if you're getting consistently in the top 5, there is no problem. You are doing excellent work.
So when you are in States, ( which I have been) you do want to write more?
To basically sum it up: It's quality of writing, not quantity of writing, that's important in this event. The two are not the same. And "quality" doesn't mean having the most lovely, flowing prose -- it just means being able to communicate the information and details efficiently.
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brayden box wrote: So when you are in States, ( which I have been) you do want to write more?
Here's an example: in the military, a soldier briefing an officer would not say, "When the blazing ball of glory fell from the sky and darkness graced the land, a storm of Vulcan's fury rained upon the city of tents, secluded from the modern world" or poetic guano like that. Instead, he or she would say, "At 1800 hours an air raid occurred at the refugee camp." Same point, but accomplished in a third of the characters.

In other words, your ability to be blunt trumps your ability to write like a lit major.
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samlan16 wrote:
brayden box wrote: So when you are in States, ( which I have been) you do want to write more?
Here's an example: in the military, a soldier briefing an officer would not say, "When the blazing ball of glory fell from the sky and darkness graced the land, a storm of Vulcan's fury rained upon the city of tents, secluded from the modern world" or poetic guano like that. Instead, he or she would say, "At 1800 hours an air raid occurred at the refugee camp." Same point, but accomplished in a third of the characters.


In other words, your ability to be blunt trumps your ability to write like a lit major.
I have to applaud for that awesome example. But yea writing as much as possible does not translate to a high score in experimental ldesign. However, being able to communicate your ideas and concepts in an effective manner will.
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Okay!
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