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Write It Do It B/C

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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby InfiniCuber » September 24th, 2015, 6:37 am

What does everyone think about the new rule of not having to define abbreviations and such?

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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby samlan16 » September 24th, 2015, 7:28 am

InfiniCuber wrote:What does everyone think about the new rule of not having to define abbreviations and such?

I LOVE IT :D

It's so fantastic, isn't it? I practiced yesterday, finished earlier than normal, and had more time to check over.
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby InfiniCuber » September 24th, 2015, 9:56 am

samlan16 wrote:
InfiniCuber wrote:What does everyone think about the new rule of not having to define abbreviations and such?

I LOVE IT :D

It's so fantastic, isn't it? I practiced yesterday, finished earlier than normal, and had more time to check over.

Yes! I'm glad they made the change. Having it in didn't really prove a team better than the other or make competition any harder. It was more so a nuisance!
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby brayden box » October 9th, 2015, 7:22 am

Yeah, I agree! It will help a lot!
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby zyzzyva980 » October 10th, 2015, 2:34 pm

InfiniCuber wrote:What does everyone think about the new rule of not having to define abbreviations and such?

I LOVE IT :D


Is this a thing? Haven't read the rules. Is this really a thing?

I'm gonna come off like a curmudgeonly old man here, but I'm actually opposed to this change. I've always thought that the theory of Write It Do It was to explain a process in such a way that anyone can complete the process without needing to have prior knowledge. That's a pretty important concept in science. (Yes, writing is important in science! Don't slack off in English class.)

I haven't read the new rules, but it would make a lot more sense to allow common abbreviations without explanations (e.g., SW = southwest, etc), but require explanations for more obscure abbreviations.

For example, if I write:
+ 2 gr b 2 l o pc

Clearly, my teammate knows that I want him/her to add two green beads to the left orange pipe cleaner, but literally nobody else is going to get that.

Not a good change for this event, in my opinion. If this is really the way it's gonna be from now on, WIDI becomes just who can come up with the best shorthand code.
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby samlan16 » October 10th, 2015, 4:34 pm

zyzzyva980 wrote:
InfiniCuber wrote:What does everyone think about the new rule of not having to define abbreviations and such?

I LOVE IT :D


Is this a thing? Haven't read the rules. Is this really a thing?

I'm gonna come off like a curmudgeonly old man here, but I'm actually opposed to this change. I've always thought that the theory of Write It Do It was to explain a process in such a way that anyone can complete the process without needing to have prior knowledge. That's a pretty important concept in science. (Yes, writing is important in science! Don't slack off in English class.)

I haven't read the new rules, but it would make a lot more sense to allow common abbreviations without explanations (e.g., SW = southwest, etc), but require explanations for more obscure abbreviations.

For example, if I write:
+ 2 gr b 2 l o pc

Clearly, my teammate knows that I want him/her to add two green beads to the left orange pipe cleaner, but literally nobody else is going to get that.

Not a good change for this event, in my opinion. If this is really the way it's gonna be from now on, WIDI becomes just who can come up with the best shorthand code.

Unfortunately, yes. I interpreted it as not having to define every abbreviation for units, but some team somewhere could interpret it as that. The penalty for drawing a picture has also been reduced from zero tolerance DQing to a tier 2 for a portion of the model.

I honestly feel like SciOly is becoming more about winning than learning, which is unfortunate because the learning emphasis in SciOly is what drew me to materials science, whereas the winning emphasis in math team is what alienated me from math/ physics.
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby bernard » October 10th, 2015, 6:11 pm

I could also imagine the old abbreviation rule causing issues for students with poor handwriting. In my current handwriting, often some of my letters are merged so "brick" might look like "brck" which would be interpreted as code or abbreviations...

Coming up with the shortest abbreviations might save time, but it's also more processing for your brain. No matter how much practice we do, understanding "red brick horizontal north" will be faster than understanding "r b h n."
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby InfiniCuber » October 11th, 2015, 9:32 pm

bernard wrote:I could also imagine the old abbreviation rule causing issues for students with poor handwriting. In my current handwriting, often some of my letters are merged so "brick" might look like "brck" which would be interpreted as code or abbreviations...

Coming up with the shortest abbreviations might save time, but it's also more processing for your brain. No matter how much practice we do, understanding "red brick horizontal north" will be faster than understanding "r b h n."

Completely agree here.
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zyzzyva980 wrote:Is this a thing? Haven't read the rules. Is this really a thing?

I'm gonna come off like a curmudgeonly old man here, but I'm actually opposed to this change. I've always thought that the theory of Write It Do It was to explain a process in such a way that anyone can complete the process without needing to have prior knowledge. That's a pretty important concept in science. (Yes, writing is important in science! Don't slack off in English class.)

I haven't read the new rules, but it would make a lot more sense to allow common abbreviations without explanations (e.g., SW = southwest, etc), but require explanations for more obscure abbreviations.

For example, if I write:
+ 2 gr b 2 l o pc

Clearly, my teammate knows that I want him/her to add two green beads to the left orange pipe cleaner, but literally nobody else is going to get that.

Not a good change for this event, in my opinion. If this is really the way it's gonna be from now on, WIDI becomes just who can come up with the best shorthand code.

Unfortunately, yes. I interpreted it as not having to define every abbreviation for units, but some team somewhere could interpret it as that. The penalty for drawing a picture has also been reduced from zero tolerance DQing to a tier 2 for a portion of the model.

I honestly feel like SciOly is becoming more about winning than learning, which is unfortunate because the learning emphasis in SciOly is what drew me to materials science, whereas the winning emphasis in math team is what alienated me from math/ physics.

What I myself at least was excited for was not at all about creating "code", as some have implied. I honestly doubt many teams at all will do so. I was glad because it was a nuisance to write out "horizontal" when many people would understand "horiz." instead so it then becomes "red brick horiz. N" which is understandable, not code. Like bernard said, a code would take too long to make, commit to memory, and then execute.
And one more thing. samlam, I haven't particularly noticed this change myself thankfully, but I know everywhere I have been and competed at has been about learning, and the people who join join for learning. That's not to say there aren't places where people do this to win, I'm sure there are, but I haven't noticed this at all :D
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby rosebiju123 » November 1st, 2015, 11:00 am

Is there a way to become more familiar with the objects they might use because what we are not able to make words of it?

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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby bernard » November 1st, 2015, 3:20 pm

rosebiju123 wrote:Is there a way to become more familiar with the objects they might use because what we are not able to make words of it?

I'm not sure what you're asking. If you're unsure of what objects they might use, that is part of the point of the event - being able to describe something you haven't seen before. A good way to practice involves making objects from toys and random things you find around the house and practicing the event with those objects.
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby whovian11 » November 2nd, 2015, 7:04 am

how would I describe the little buttons on the Lego's? I'm new but I know some.

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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby bernard » November 2nd, 2015, 1:20 pm

whovian11 wrote:how would I describe the little buttons on the Lego's? I'm new but I know some.

You can use any term that works for you and your partner, so you could describe it as buttons. A lego dictionary (http://thebrickblogger.com/2010/11/lego ... asic-term/) I found online calls them studs.
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Postby bernard » November 2nd, 2015, 1:20 pm

whovian11 wrote:how would I describe the little buttons on the Lego's? I'm new but I know some.

You can use any term that works for you and your partner, so you could describe it as buttons. A lego dictionary (http://thebrickblogger.com/2010/11/lego ... asic-term/) I found online calls them studs.
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Re: Write It Do It B/C

Postby rosebiju123 » November 2nd, 2015, 1:38 pm

what are some ways we can really prepare for this event with our partner?


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