If you ordered the pre-build toober for this year then the length should be fine. However, if you are trying to model more than the squence set by CBM or use a toober from a previous year then that would be another story.RAHSAndrew17 wrote:Is anyone else having trouble building the Pre-Build model for Protein Modeling due to the Toober being the incorrect length?
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In previous years I know that for the explanation of creative additions was limited to a 3" x 5" index card as stated in the rules. But this year in the rules there is no specification for the size/type of paper that the creative additions are supposed to be on. (but new bolded rules give the new specifications for this year) I have submitted numerous FAQ's to have this clarified but I have gotten no responses. I just wanted to know what any of you guys were going to do for your creative addition explanations.
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I think I know what your are asking but correct me if I am wrong:Showow wrote:In previous years I know that for the explanation of creative additions was limited to a 3" x 5" index card as stated in the rules. But this year in the rules there is no specification for the size/type of paper that the creative additions are supposed to be on. (but new bolded rules give the new specifications for this year) I have submitted numerous FAQ's to have this clarified but I have gotten no responses. I just wanted to know what any of you guys were going to do for your creative addition explanations.
I don't know if you saw this but this might explaint it.
3.b rules says that teams should explain function of additions in 500 words or less on a 10 point single space sheet.
So as long as you additions are explained in 500 words or less I think you are good. And I mean a regular piece of printer would look fine in my opinion.
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Yep that's what I was getting after. It's just that I have been to two workshops and both times the Protein Modeling instructors (who both happened to be actual regional supervisors) said that we needed a 3" x 5" card for the creative additions. I guess I'll probably bring in a copy of the rules and ask the supervisor(s) about their personal interpretation.Fluorine wrote:I think I know what your are asking but correct me if I am wrong:Showow wrote:In previous years I know that for the explanation of creative additions was limited to a 3" x 5" index card as stated in the rules. But this year in the rules there is no specification for the size/type of paper that the creative additions are supposed to be on. (but new bolded rules give the new specifications for this year) I have submitted numerous FAQ's to have this clarified but I have gotten no responses. I just wanted to know what any of you guys were going to do for your creative addition explanations.
I don't know if you saw this but this might explaint it.
3.b rules says that teams should explain function of additions in 500 words or less on a 10 point single space sheet.
So as long as you additions are explained in 500 words or less I think you are good. And I mean a regular piece of printer would look fine in my opinion.
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I am assuming that since the rule writers eliminated the detail about a 3x5 notecard from last year, they no longer think it is necessary. We are only expected to comply with this year's specifications which are 500 words or less, 10 point font size, and single spaced (3.b). The supervisors you encountered probably weren't up to date with the new rules. I attended an invitational in Texas and my partners and I had no issues with our presentation, which did not include a 3x5 notecard.
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Seconded^Noel wrote:I am assuming that since the rule writers eliminated the detail about a 3x5 notecard from last year, they no longer think it is necessary. We are only expected to comply with this year's specifications which are 500 words or less, 10 point font size, and single spaced (3.b). The supervisors you encountered probably weren't up to date with the new rules. I attended an invitational in Texas and my partners and I had no issues with our presentation, which did not include a 3x5 notecard.
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Ok, I just wanted to hear what others have gone through. Because I have my first invitational this Saturday and I asked my coach for his interpretation of the rule and he told me to do both ways, so I'll be prepared for any event supervisor's interpretation.Boss wrote:Seconded^Noel wrote:I am assuming that since the rule writers eliminated the detail about a 3x5 notecard from last year, they no longer think it is necessary. We are only expected to comply with this year's specifications which are 500 words or less, 10 point font size, and single spaced (3.b). The supervisors you encountered probably weren't up to date with the new rules. I attended an invitational in Texas and my partners and I had no issues with our presentation, which did not include a 3x5 notecard.
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Sure, if you have time, it's always good to have all bases covered. Though anything in past rules does not apply as others have pointed out. Could print out this year's and last year's rules and bring it to the event. Or submit and FAQ if you think it's necessary.Showow wrote:Ok, I just wanted to hear what others have gone through. Because I have my first invitational this Saturday and I asked my coach for his interpretation of the rule and he told me to do both ways, so I'll be prepared for any event supervisor's interpretation.Boss wrote:Seconded^Noel wrote:I am assuming that since the rule writers eliminated the detail about a 3x5 notecard from last year, they no longer think it is necessary. We are only expected to comply with this year's specifications which are 500 words or less, 10 point font size, and single spaced (3.b). The supervisors you encountered probably weren't up to date with the new rules. I attended an invitational in Texas and my partners and I had no issues with our presentation, which did not include a 3x5 notecard.
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Hey Guys,
Is anyone else having trouble getting the Pre-Build protein model from the pre-build environment. This year we have to build amino acids 93-261 of chain A of the Sepiapterin Reductase, so when I type "restrict 93-261 and sidechain=a" just like the tutorial says, the protein disappears completely.
Any thoughts?
Also, if we're going to build a support stand for our protein, does the support stand have and dimensional restrictions?
Thanks
Is anyone else having trouble getting the Pre-Build protein model from the pre-build environment. This year we have to build amino acids 93-261 of chain A of the Sepiapterin Reductase, so when I type "restrict 93-261 and sidechain=a" just like the tutorial says, the protein disappears completely.
Any thoughts?
Also, if we're going to build a support stand for our protein, does the support stand have and dimensional restrictions?
Thanks
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Re: Protein Modeling C
After competing at the MIT invitational, we got the rubric back for protein modeling and found that having a 3x5 notecard for the description of additions is required. However, the rules for this year only specify a 500 word limit and 10 pt font size...therefore it shouldn't matter the size of the paper. Any thoughts?
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