After seeing this vehicle run I cannot foresee much faster acceleration without loss of control due to traction issues. It's.... fast.Bazinga+ wrote:Oh I see. 100,000 rpm is insane. The motor probably has very few turns so it can't provide enough torque. Hearing it is an option but I think a ~2000-3000 kV motor should enable you to get up to top speed much quicker.
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Hm. Might be an issue of wheels. Back when I was doing wheeled vehicle I got it to accelerate in the first .5 meters and get a time of 1.9 sec, but it took a while for me to find the right wheels. Also you're allowed to reverse direction so you can go past the target distance and then reverse back to it.
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Reversing direction to get to the end point is only reasonably feasible with a DC motor. Brushless A/C motors will not be able to maintain a steady position without some serious algorithms and even then, its just not going to be anywhere near as precise compared to a well practiced and documented wingnut systemBazinga+ wrote:Hm. Might be an issue of wheels. Back when I was doing wheeled vehicle I got it to accelerate in the first .5 meters and get a time of 1.9 sec, but it took a while for me to find the right wheels. Also you're allowed to reverse direction so you can go past the target distance and then reverse back to it.
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Yeah, I have looked into high-end brushless motors like Castle and while they are insane and the price is at least doable for me, I'm discouraged by the high voltage ratings because I don't want to have to find a converter to step it up. I guess there is no motor that's inherently perfect. Thanks for the help guys. Any suggestions on where I might find gearboxes or the parts I would need to do a homemade one? Seems that most of them come with a motor that I don't like.
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The best build designs/setups are often the toughest to create - this is what sets the teams who are in it for college applications from those who are in it for the challengeHandsFreeCookieDunk wrote:Yeah, I have looked into high-end brushless motors like Castle and while they are insane and the price is at least doable for me, I'm discouraged by the high voltage ratings because I don't want to have to find a converter to step it up. I guess there is no motor that's inherently perfect. Thanks for the help guys. Any suggestions on where I might find gearboxes or the parts I would need to do a homemade one? Seems that most of them come with a motor that I don't like.
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I'm a bit late I know, but most all brushless ESC's I've seen have a brake feature that stops the motor. One of the best features of BLDC motors (imho) is that they have a holding torque, and it's pretty straightforward to implement.windu34 wrote:Brushless A/C motors will not be able to maintain a steady position without some serious algorithms
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Here's one thing I don't get. All of the brushless motors I've found tend to run at rather high voltages - how do you manage to run them with only a 9V power supply available?
We are currently using basic DC motors for 2 of the wheels running at 4.5 V each - I can't find any brushless motors that would take such a small voltage.
We are currently using basic DC motors for 2 of the wheels running at 4.5 V each - I can't find any brushless motors that would take such a small voltage.
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Use a voltage step-up converter:)rk9109 wrote:Here's one thing I don't get. All of the brushless motors I've found tend to run at rather high voltages - how do you manage to run them with only a 9V power supply available?
We are currently using basic DC motors for 2 of the wheels running at 4.5 V each - I can't find any brushless motors that would take such a small voltage.
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I wouldn't. Which brushless motors are you talking about? All the ones I've seen are run by 2-3 cell lithium ion batteries or 5-8 Nickel cadmium batteries. A 6 cell buckle battery is 7.2 volts, so definitely in specs. I recommend a nice castle or turnigy brushless motor/esc combo.InfiniCuber wrote:Use a voltage step-up converter:)rk9109 wrote:Here's one thing I don't get. All of the brushless motors I've found tend to run at rather high voltages - how do you manage to run them with only a 9V power supply available?
We are currently using basic DC motors for 2 of the wheels running at 4.5 V each - I can't find any brushless motors that would take such a small voltage.
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