Experimental Design B/C

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Re: IMPORTANT question on what to bring

Postby Panda Weasley » February 9th, 2017, 5:28 am

Is it allowed to bring some notes to the Experimental design event? or no?
You aren't allowed any notes.
Just out of curiosity, what notes would you bring?
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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Postby BrS » February 9th, 2017, 3:12 pm

Does anyone happen to know the raw score for 1st place ExpDes at MIT 2017? Or are we not allowed to know?

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Re: IMPORTANT question on what to bring

Postby geniusjohn5 » February 10th, 2017, 9:46 am

Is it allowed to bring some notes to the Experimental design event? or no?
You aren't allowed any notes.
Just out of curiosity, what notes would you bring?
I was thinking about bringing a copy of the rubric plus a list of tips for experimental design.
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Re: IMPORTANT question on what to bring

Postby awesome90220 » February 10th, 2017, 2:34 pm

You aren't allowed any notes.
Just out of curiosity, what notes would you bring?
I was thinking about bringing a copy of the rubric plus a list of tips for experimental design.
I think that would make the event useless, seeing as whoever wins is essentially whoever knows the rubric the best.
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Re: IMPORTANT question on what to bring

Postby Panda Weasley » February 10th, 2017, 6:27 pm

I think that would make the event useless, seeing as whoever wins is essentially whoever knows the rubric the best.
That's not necessarily true. There are many event sups. who give some form of the rubric with the test. I'm not saying that this is common, but I know I've had at least one conversation about it on one of these threads (which one I can't remember...whoops) and it seemed at least not unheard of. While it does make it a little easier, memorizing the rubric isn't everything. It's also about how well you can use the rubric. Someone could potentially have the rubric completely memorized yet get a very low score. It's all about the application and how well you use your time.
And I want to be clear, I'm not trying to tell you that your opinion is invalid. I just want to show the other side. I personally feel that even with the rubric the event can be very challenging. This also, of course, depends on how well it's run. I do see how at the National level it could make the event too easy.
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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Postby nejanimb » February 11th, 2017, 1:37 pm

Does anyone happen to know the raw score for 1st place ExpDes at MIT 2017? Or are we not allowed to know?
If I recall, I think it was a 111? I do definitely remember that there was significant room for improvement even among the top labs!
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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Postby jgrischow1 » March 6th, 2017, 7:23 pm

What is the definition of "ruler"? Are meter sticks allowed?
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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Postby masterm » March 18th, 2017, 7:02 pm

Could someone please provide an example of the condensed table? I am confused on how it should be set up. I have read that it should be a single-column table with only the averages, is this correct? If you are not directly graphing your independent variable (i.e. you're graphing a calculated value), what goes in the condensed data table? Please attach an example!

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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Postby InDistress » March 19th, 2017, 11:14 am

I was wondering if there is a good way to decrease the amount of time it takes? Not just to conduct the experiment, but the whole event.
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Re: Experimental Design B/C

Postby Panda Weasley » March 19th, 2017, 12:29 pm

Could someone please provide an example of the condensed table? I am confused on how it should be set up. I have read that it should be a single-column table with only the averages, is this correct? If you are not directly graphing your independent variable (i.e. you're graphing a calculated value), what goes in the condensed data table? Please attach an example!
I'd like to help, but I don't know what you are referring to.
I was wondering if there is a good way to decrease the amount of time it takes? Not just to conduct the experiment, but the whole event.
Practice. Practice. Practice.

If your group isn't already doing this, divide the tasks among yourselves. For example Person A can be writing the procedure while Person B is setting up the experiment and Person C is making the data table. It makes things go much quicker so you are less crammed for time at the very end.

If there is a specific section of the event that you feel is taking too much time practice doing that one part over and over with different scenarios. Try to identify why it's taking so long and make a plan to decrease the time needed.

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