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Re: Microbe Mission B/C

Postby Ashernoel » May 15th, 2017, 9:59 pm

So I'm looking at tests and finding stuff on

"African sleeping sickness" caused by Trypanosoma brucei. Why is this on microbe tests? Was it a disease on the past??
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Re: Microbe Mission B/C

Postby Skink » May 16th, 2017, 1:58 pm

Yeah, the topic rotation for this event is some of the diseases on the list. You will not see it on the National test, but I'm confident that African sleeping sickness will be on the 2018 disease list. By the way, good luck.

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Re: Microbe Mission B/C

Postby Alex-RCHS » May 16th, 2017, 2:34 pm

Skink wrote:Yeah, the topic rotation for this event is some of the diseases on the list. You will not see it on the National test, but I'm confident that African sleeping sickness will be on the 2018 disease list. By the way, good luck.

By this do you mean that the only subject change for this event will be the disease list?

Also, do you expect the entire list to change, or just parts?
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Re: Microbe Mission B/C

Postby Unome » May 16th, 2017, 3:25 pm

Alex-RCHS wrote:
Skink wrote:Yeah, the topic rotation for this event is some of the diseases on the list. You will not see it on the National test, but I'm confident that African sleeping sickness will be on the 2018 disease list. By the way, good luck.

By this do you mean that the only subject change for this event will be the disease list?

Also, do you expect the entire list to change, or just parts?

Based on previous lists, it seems like around 5-10 diseases change each year, similar to what happens for ID lists between years (though strangely Invasives didn't change at all).
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Re: Microbe Mission B/C

Postby NeilMehta » May 17th, 2017, 6:24 am

Unome wrote:
Alex-RCHS wrote:
Skink wrote:Yeah, the topic rotation for this event is some of the diseases on the list. You will not see it on the National test, but I'm confident that African sleeping sickness will be on the 2018 disease list. By the way, good luck.

By this do you mean that the only subject change for this event will be the disease list?

Also, do you expect the entire list to change, or just parts?

Based on previous lists, it seems like around 5-10 diseases change each year, similar to what happens for ID lists between years (though strangely Invasives didn't change at all).

Do the numbers of diseases change or do they stay at 50?
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Re: Microbe Mission B/C

Postby Ashernoel » May 17th, 2017, 12:45 pm

NeilMehta wrote:
Unome wrote:
Alex-RCHS wrote:By this do you mean that the only subject change for this event will be the disease list?

Also, do you expect the entire list to change, or just parts?

Based on previous lists, it seems like around 5-10 diseases change each year, similar to what happens for ID lists between years (though strangely Invasives didn't change at all).

Do the numbers of diseases change or do they stay at 50?

*thinking about room on the cheat sheeat* hmmm

but its fine i use times new roman so if i switch to arial narrow i have a lot more room
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Re: Microbe Mission B/C

Postby Alex-RCHS » May 21st, 2017, 12:33 pm

I'm not sure if this is allowed, but if it is can someone describe the Div. C test? What topics did it emphasize? Was it stations or sit-down? Was there anything surprising? Any labs? How detailed were the disease or microscope questions?
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Postby allopathie » May 21st, 2017, 4:05 pm

Alex-RCHS wrote:I'm not sure if this is allowed, but if it is can someone describe the Div. C test? What topics did it emphasize? Was it stations or sit-down? Was there anything surprising? Any labs? How detailed were the disease or microscope questions?


Without a doubt one of the most difficult yet well-written tests I have taken. There were 120 questions non-station (very diverse, covering all of the topics) with gram staining fixed cells, but we were incredibly pressed for time; we managed to complete everything with 5 minutes to spare and got 3rd, probably with 1-2 questions seperating us from 1st. There were clinical vignettes (yay!) and images where you needed to identify both the microscope and the type of organism.
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Re: Microbe Mission B/C

Postby Unome » May 21st, 2017, 5:24 pm

allopathie wrote:
Alex-RCHS wrote:I'm not sure if this is allowed, but if it is can someone describe the Div. C test? What topics did it emphasize? Was it stations or sit-down? Was there anything surprising? Any labs? How detailed were the disease or microscope questions?


Without a doubt one of the most difficult yet well-written tests I have taken. There were 120 questions non-station (very diverse, covering all of the topics) with gram staining fixed cells, but we were incredibly pressed for time; we managed to complete everything with 5 minutes to spare and got 3rd, probably with 1-2 questions seperating us from 1st. There were clinical vignettes (yay!) and images where you needed to identify both the microscope and the type of organism.

When you say "one of the most difficult", is that relative to other tests or in general? Personally I found the test to be pretty easy for the most part, but ended up 26th (probably because of the section on identifying the type of microscope & microbe - I thought I finished it, and only realized we hadn't with 1 minute left).
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Postby Ashernoel » May 21st, 2017, 5:28 pm

Yea we messed up IDing some pictures and general symptoms and he id section so we got 22 :(
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Re: Microbe Mission B/C

Postby winchesetr » May 22nd, 2017, 11:38 am

Unome wrote:
allopathie wrote:
Alex-RCHS wrote:I'm not sure if this is allowed, but if it is can someone describe the Div. C test? What topics did it emphasize? Was it stations or sit-down? Was there anything surprising? Any labs? How detailed were the disease or microscope questions?


Without a doubt one of the most difficult yet well-written tests I have taken. There were 120 questions non-station (very diverse, covering all of the topics) with gram staining fixed cells, but we were incredibly pressed for time; we managed to complete everything with 5 minutes to spare and got 3rd, probably with 1-2 questions seperating us from 1st. There were clinical vignettes (yay!) and images where you needed to identify both the microscope and the type of organism.

When you say "one of the most difficult", is that relative to other tests or in general? Personally I found the test to be pretty easy for the most part, but ended up 26th (probably because of the section on identifying the type of microscope & microbe - I thought I finished it, and only realized we hadn't with 1 minute left).


What I think allopathie means (seeing as we were partners and discussed this after the event) is that the length and breadth of the test were difficult (in a fun way)! There were almost no other practice tests that we took this year that could compare in terms of size for one. Although some of the general knowledge wasn't exactly difficult, there were definitely a few questions that required more critical thinking and certainly played a role in placings I would say. Sure, there were a few super challenging invites tests, but this test blew most of the tests we took away, and it was great - super fun and interesting. I also did the Gram Stain portion which was awesome because not many of our competitions actually had a lab portion! Also, to be fair, we weren't super pressed for time, we just double checked our work and were pretty happy with it at 5 mins. Personally, the "disease" portion of the test was my favorite. I would have liked a few more in-depth questions about specific microbes (more in-depth questions on algae, fungi, etc), but overall great test. To the original poster, if you want to check out the test and have the resources, I recommend ordering the nats tests from the Soinc store when they are available :D
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Re: Microbe Mission B/C

Postby Skink » May 22nd, 2017, 3:06 pm

Ashernoel wrote:Yea we messed up IDing some pictures and general symptoms and he id section so we got 22 :(

How'd it compare to State?

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Re: Microbe Mission B/C

Postby Ashernoel » May 22nd, 2017, 3:13 pm

Skink wrote:
Ashernoel wrote:Yea we messed up IDing some pictures and general symptoms and he id section so we got 22 :(

How'd it compare to State?

Hmm state was very different, it was a lot more of the microbiology and stuff of things. We did really well on it, but it was also sognifantly harder. On the nats test, there were a lot of sections that were very clear and everyone possibly aced, and then there were sections where the directions were a little confusing and the questions difficult (a picture of jaundice and expectation of identifying which disease?? The iding microbes from the low result on images where you couldn't see what was going on (or we couldn't I guess)).

I'm pretty biased tho because we crushed the state test and then failed nats. I'm sure Stevensons opinion on it will be different because they did ok at state and crushed it at nats @elaine
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Re: Microbe Mission B/C

Postby Skink » May 22nd, 2017, 3:38 pm

Thanks. Congrats to those who placed at Nationals!
Ashernoel wrote:I'm pretty biased tho because we crushed the state test

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Postby Tailsfan101 » May 22nd, 2017, 3:44 pm

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