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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby zyzzyva980 » February 3rd, 2017, 3:09 pm

hearthstone224 wrote:Yeah, I realize sometimes they ask you things that are really hard to know, like for example they could ask you about which bands on a certain sensor test NIR wavelength. The only way to get that right would be to have all the bands laid out, and that's not going to happen for every satellite.


I haven't taken a close look at the rules this year, but unless that's a specific satellite they're emphasizing this year, that's just a bad question. I know I'd never include that on my tests. Your focus when studying shouldn't be on hyper-specific, esoteric details. Because remote sensing is such a unique process, your goal when studying for this event should be to amass a solid foundation of understanding the process, and a good test should have you build off that foundation and apply what you know in new and different real-world scenarios.

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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby Unome » February 3rd, 2017, 3:28 pm

zyzzyva980 wrote:hyper-specific, esoteric details.

cough MIT cough (the satellite, exact altitude of the satellite, and swath width of ASTER?)
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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby windu34 » February 3rd, 2017, 8:24 pm

Does anyone have a reliable souce for types of orbits? There are lots of conflicting sources and some use Geo-synchronous and Geo-stationary synonymously
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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby zyzzyva980 » February 4th, 2017, 11:12 am

Unome wrote:
zyzzyva980 wrote:hyper-specific, esoteric details.

cough MIT cough (the satellite, exact altitude of the satellite, and swath width of ASTER?)


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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby hearthstone224 » February 5th, 2017, 5:25 pm

zyzzyva980 wrote:
hearthstone224 wrote:Yeah, I realize sometimes they ask you things that are really hard to know, like for example they could ask you about which bands on a certain sensor test NIR wavelength. The only way to get that right would be to have all the bands laid out, and that's not going to happen for every satellite.


I haven't taken a close look at the rules this year, but unless that's a specific satellite they're emphasizing this year, that's just a bad question. I know I'd never include that on my tests. Your focus when studying shouldn't be on hyper-specific, esoteric details. Because remote sensing is such a unique process, your goal when studying for this event should be to amass a solid foundation of understanding the process, and a good test should have you build off that foundation and apply what you know in new and different real-world scenarios.

Anyway, if you ever take one of my tests, don't worry about rote memorization ;)


I'm just curious as to what you mean when you say understanding a solid foundation. I've kind of been studying by looking at the rules and googling each subject, and also doing practice tests. Is this good enough? Surprisingly it was enough to win an invitational- but I think the test at regionals will be better structured.

Some of the questions on the invitational test was straight off a test I did on the wiki. That might've been why I did so well.
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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby Unome » February 5th, 2017, 5:54 pm

hearthstone224 wrote:straight off a test I did on the wiki

In my experience, this is common in Remote. I don't know how regionals are in IL. In my years in Div B Georgia invitationals tended to have better tests, but it's the opposite in Div C; invitationals tend to have low-quality tests.
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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby hearthstone224 » February 20th, 2017, 6:38 pm

Unome wrote:
hearthstone224 wrote:straight off a test I did on the wiki

In my experience, this is common in Remote. I don't know how regionals are in IL. In my years in Div B Georgia invitationals tended to have better tests, but it's the opposite in Div C; invitationals tend to have low-quality tests.


Hm, I think that maybe the supervisors just don't feel like coming up with new questions. They wouldn't do this at regionals though, would they?

Just in case they do though, I'm going through most of the old practice tests on the wiki :)
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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby Unome » February 21st, 2017, 4:55 am

hearthstone224 wrote:
Unome wrote:
hearthstone224 wrote:straight off a test I did on the wiki

In my experience, this is common in Remote. I don't know how regionals are in IL. In my years in Div B Georgia invitationals tended to have better tests, but it's the opposite in Div C; invitationals tend to have low-quality tests.


Hm, I think that maybe the supervisors just don't feel like coming up with new questions. They wouldn't do this at regionals though, would they?

Just in case they do though, I'm going through most of the old practice tests on the wiki :)

I don't know how it is in Illinois, but over here invitationals are generally better-run than regionals.
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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby hearthstone224 » February 21st, 2017, 9:11 am

Wow. I would think opposite since Regionals are what really matters, right? Invitationals kind of are just there for practice.

Anyways, nice to know. I'm going through the Pennsylvania State Test 2013, since that was the test which the directions were straight out of.
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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby zyzzyva980 » February 21st, 2017, 3:11 pm

In a lot of cases, invitationals tend to be better-run than regionals because invitationals have higher levels of competition. Regionals will often bring into play a bunch of schools with skeleton programs who can't field a full roster and/or never go to invites. I'd surmise that most invitationals are only out-run by the top regional competitions in the country.
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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby hearthstone224 » February 21st, 2017, 5:24 pm

Oh, ok. Interesting info there, since I feel like its so odd to have the more important competition be of lower quality.

Either way, what questions have you all been seeing on the test? I feel like a Regional wouldn't copy a test off the wiki, would it?

Also I feel as though this year is really A-train based, should I know a lot of stuff about the A-train satellites do you think?

The test I took was really imaged based actually.
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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby Xuax » February 26th, 2017, 11:43 am

My team doesn't go to invitationals, so I have no idea what tests for this event are like. I've tried the test exchange, but all the tests are from previous years and don't seem to have much in common with the rules. Regionals are coming up in a few weeks, and I have no idea if I've been studying the right stuff. From my understanding, tests involve some specific questions about A-train satellites, a few questions about climate change and physics, and a lot of image interpretation. Is there anything else anyone has seen on tests?

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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby EastStroudsburg13 » February 26th, 2017, 11:56 am

There should still be tests from the Test Exchange that are very heavy on the A-Train and similar topics. Honestly, the tests for Remote Sensing don't typically change very much (or at least haven't since Mars went away). There are usually questions about how satellites function, but other than that you seem to have covered the bulk of the topics.
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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby Skink » February 26th, 2017, 12:01 pm

What print references are folks using? I got one of the top hits on Amazon via interlibrary loan, but it contained a healthy mold colony...bagged and sent it back home. I don't want to splurge on anything that's not on target for this. EM radiation is pretty standard for the physical sciences, and there's solid coverage of Earth's energy budget and climate stuff in the text I use for Meteorology. What for the Remote-specific stuff, though?

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Re: Remote Sensing C

Postby windu34 » February 26th, 2017, 12:20 pm

Skink wrote:What print references are folks using? I got one of the top hits on Amazon via interlibrary loan, but it contained a healthy mold colony...bagged and sent it back home. I don't want to splurge on anything that's not on target for this. EM radiation is pretty standard for the physical sciences, and there's solid coverage of Earth's energy budget and climate stuff in the text I use for Meteorology. What for the Remote-specific stuff, though?

I have focused mainly on the NASA website for A-train information, university-class powerpoints for energy conservation, and Wikipedia/reliable-ish websites for the most of the rest of the information. Ive started delving into scientific-journal papers for information on climate change and the atmosphere
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