Rocks and Minerals B/C

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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby AlbatrossTree » March 9th, 2017, 4:43 am

nicksalanitri wrote:
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Lol, Solon, Memorial and Magsig are pretty good at everything, those ohio tournaments are close to national level competition I heard.


As far as I could tell by looking at the WLS invitational raw scores it is mostly Mentor and Solon.

1st. Mentor 136 points
2nd. Solon 132 points
3rd. Centerville 108.5 points

That is a very large gap between the 2nd and 3rd. I do not know the total points on the test although I would believe it to be around 140-150 points.



Do you have a link to the test so I could possibly take it?



I currently do not have access to the tests

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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby pilewithaface » March 15th, 2017, 11:10 pm

Lis_ara wrote:Hey guys!
Does anyone have an old copy of the Rocks and Minerals rules manual lying around (like from 2013 & 2014 season perhaps)? If so, can you post a link here? I'd like to get a general idea of what the event includes without having to buy the entire 2017 Division C event rules manual... and I'm sure many others feel the same :) Thank you!!! :D


All the rules are available on the Science Olympiad website, http://www.sciencenc.com/ . Personally, I like using the website better anyways because it seems to be updated more frequently. To get to the rules, go to the Event Resources tab, find your Division, and the Event should be under there. That'll take you to the rule page.

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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby Unome » March 16th, 2017, 6:31 am

pilewithaface wrote:
Lis_ara wrote:Hey guys!
Does anyone have an old copy of the Rocks and Minerals rules manual lying around (like from 2013 & 2014 season perhaps)? If so, can you post a link here? I'd like to get a general idea of what the event includes without having to buy the entire 2017 Division C event rules manual... and I'm sure many others feel the same :) Thank you!!! :D


All the rules are available on the Science Olympiad website, http://www.sciencenc.com/ . Personally, I like using the website better anyways because it seems to be updated more frequently. To get to the rules, go to the Event Resources tab, find your Division, and the Event should be under there. That'll take you to the rule page.

I seriously doubt that NCSO would post the rules publicly on their website in violation of NSO copyright (nor do I see them up there right now).
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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby farmerjoe279 » March 23rd, 2017, 11:38 am

embokim wrote:This is a bit outdated but for some newcomers this site helped me with both entomology and rocks and minerals at regionals and states.
http://scioly.org/users/balsa/public/Sc ... index.html
You have to capitalize the first letter of every answer and a couple are misspelled but you can find a pattern after a couple minutes of playing around with this.


Could someone give me the link to this website. The one above does not work.
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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby Magikarpmaster629 » March 24th, 2017, 5:33 am

farmerjoe279 wrote:
embokim wrote:This is a bit outdated but for some newcomers this site helped me with both entomology and rocks and minerals at regionals and states.
http://scioly.org/users/balsa/public/Sc ... index.html
You have to capitalize the first letter of every answer and a couple are misspelled but you can find a pattern after a couple minutes of playing around with this.


Could someone give me the link to this website. The one above does not work.

I'm guessing it died after the recent site transition, I'd try asking the mods on the Site Transition Errors Thread
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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby AlbatrossTree » April 4th, 2017, 6:55 am

Anyone else notice that actinolite and tremolite are the same mineral with differing percentages of Magnesium and Iron? What could be used to differentiate?

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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby dechirico » April 7th, 2017, 12:46 pm

Anyone else notice that actinolite and tremolite are the same mineral with differing percentages of Magnesium and Iron? What could be used to differentiate?

Well, tremolite is much cheaper, so it'll most likely be that in competitions :D
On a more specific note, I've noticed that actinolite is a slightly darker green than tremolite. It's mostly a toss-up, though. Minerals.net says that it's pretty much impossible without x-ray equipment.

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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby dxu46 » April 11th, 2017, 7:22 pm

dechirico wrote:
Anyone else notice that actinolite and tremolite are the same mineral with differing percentages of Magnesium and Iron? What could be used to differentiate?

Well, tremolite is much cheaper, so it'll most likely be that in competitions :D
On a more specific note, I've noticed that actinolite is a slightly darker green than tremolite. It's mostly a toss-up, though. Minerals.net says that it's pretty much impossible without x-ray equipment.

It seems like actinolite is usually more fibrous than tremolite. Also, like dechrico said, the green color is darker, more like malachite or crystalline epidote. With tremolite, the color goes from white to pinkish to green, and only olivine to emerald beryl green.

Hope that no one has been touching tremolite or its varieties and not washing their hands! :)
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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby ScottMaurer19 » April 20th, 2017, 9:00 am

Ie actually heard the opposite; That actinolite is LESS fibrous than tremolite and can even (rarely) be found in crystals clear enough to be used as gems.
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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby dechirico » April 20th, 2017, 5:36 pm

Any advice distinguishing diatomite from chalk? I don't have a Rocks & Min box to practice with, so I'm afraid I'm a bit rusty in physical identification.

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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby Magikarpmaster629 » April 20th, 2017, 6:04 pm

dechirico wrote:Any advice distinguishing diatomite from chalk? I don't have a Rocks & Min box to practice with, so I'm afraid I'm a bit rusty in physical identification.

They give different streaks, although I forgot which one was which...
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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby dxu46 » April 20th, 2017, 6:12 pm

Magikarpmaster629 wrote:
dechirico wrote:Any advice distinguishing diatomite from chalk? I don't have a Rocks & Min box to practice with, so I'm afraid I'm a bit rusty in physical identification.

They give different streaks, although I forgot which one was which...

Well, doesn't Chalk (limestone, containing carbonates) effervesce? Diatomite doesn't effervesce, at least. Also, Diatomite is lighter than Chalk (diatoms).
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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby Magikarpmaster629 » April 20th, 2017, 6:13 pm

dxu46 wrote:
Magikarpmaster629 wrote:
dechirico wrote:Any advice distinguishing diatomite from chalk? I don't have a Rocks & Min box to practice with, so I'm afraid I'm a bit rusty in physical identification.

They give different streaks, although I forgot which one was which...

Well, doesn't Chalk (limestone, containing carbonates) effervesce? Diatomite doesn't effervesce, at least. Also, Diatomite is lighter than Chalk (diatoms).

If you're given HCl tests, which is certainly not always. But yes, that would work.
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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby bhavjain » April 20th, 2017, 8:54 pm

What famous formations should we know? (ex. Giant's Causeway)
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Re: Rocks and Minerals B/C

Postby dxu46 » May 4th, 2017, 3:41 pm

bhavjain wrote:What famous formations should we know? (ex. Giant's Causeway)

You don't need to know them specifically, but you should include info for formations and such in a page for that rock/mineral that the formation is related to. For example, since the Giant's Causeway is made of basalt, in your Basalt section, you should put a picture and a bit of info on the Giant's Causeway.
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