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Re: Astronomy C

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jonboyage wrote:Let's assume we are on a hypothetical planet which has a perfectly circular orbit around a hypothetical main sequence star. The value of the time it takes the planet to orbit the star in years is exactly half of the value of the mass of the star in solar masses, which is between 2 and 20 solar masses (hint hint). The peak wavelength emitted by the star is 115.9nm and the radius is 3.6789 solar radii. While on the planet, we observe a different star, for which we find the parallax is 35mas. Would we have been able to use geometric parallax to observe this star accurately from Earth, assuming the same relative distance to the star (Using Hipparcos)? What would be the equivalent parallax of this star if observed from Earth?

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Alright, kindof an odd question, but not totally un-doable... TL;DR: distance of 299 pcs, Hipparcos doesn't work, parallax of 3.34 mas on Earth.
First I'll assume when you say the period is half the mass, you're using Kepler units, so it's in years not seconds. The second thing I'll assume is that you want me to solve for the mass using the mass-luminosity relation, which people seem to disagree on but I'll say it's L=M^4. Solving for L we get 4779 solar luminosities, which we can plug into the relation above to get M=8.314 solar masses. Plugging this into the period and then Kepler's third law we get 5.238 AU for the semi-major axis of the planet. Solving for the distance we get 299 pcs. Using this link from Hyperphysics (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hb ... arcos.html), Hipparcos can only do up to 200 pcs, so this would not work. On Earth, the angle would be 3.34 mas.
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Re: Astronomy C

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Magikarpmaster629 wrote:
jonboyage wrote:Let's assume we are on a hypothetical planet which has a perfectly circular orbit around a hypothetical main sequence star. The value of the time it takes the planet to orbit the star in years is exactly half of the value of the mass of the star in solar masses, which is between 2 and 20 solar masses (hint hint). The peak wavelength emitted by the star is 115.9nm and the radius is 3.6789 solar radii. While on the planet, we observe a different star, for which we find the parallax is 35mas. Would we have been able to use geometric parallax to observe this star accurately from Earth, assuming the same relative distance to the star (Using Hipparcos)? What would be the equivalent parallax of this star if observed from Earth?

Information for easy reference:
-Between 2 and 20 solar masses
-115.9nm
-3.6789 solar radii
-35mas
Alright, kindof an odd question, but not totally un-doable... TL;DR: distance of 299 pcs, Hipparcos doesn't work, parallax of 3.34 mas on Earth.
First I'll assume when you say the period is half the mass, you're using Kepler units, so it's in years not seconds. The second thing I'll assume is that you want me to solve for the mass using the mass-luminosity relation, which people seem to disagree on but I'll say it's L=M^4. Solving for L we get 4779 solar luminosities, which we can plug into the relation above to get M=8.314 solar masses. Plugging this into the period and then Kepler's third law we get 5.238 AU for the semi-major axis of the planet. Solving for the distance we get 299 pcs. Using this link from Hyperphysics (http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hb ... arcos.html), Hipparcos can only do up to 200 pcs, so this would not work. On Earth, the angle would be 3.34 mas.
You got the correct answer although we used slightly different mass luminosity ratios. The reason i mentioned it had to be between 2 and 20 solar masses is because on the wikipedia page the formula for those masses was slightly different. The mass you were supposed to get was close to 10 Your answer was still correct, so your turn!
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Re: Astronomy C

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Since we've been doing math I'll shift it back towards DSOs:

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1. Which DSO is depicted in this image? What galaxy is it in?
2. This DSO was especially bright in a particular wavelength, which is the wavelength used in the image above. Which wavelength is this?
3. The occurrence of this DSO gave insight into the progenitors of events like this. What, most likely, was the progenitor system of this DSO? Be specific.
4. Why was this event so important to cosmology and the field of astronomy as a whole?
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(Is this still a thing? Was my question too hard? :? )
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Magikarpmaster629 wrote:(Is this still a thing? Was my question too hard? :? )
I was going to answer it, but I was out of town, and then forgot about it. I'll try and get to it tomorrow (need to sleep).
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Magikarpmaster629 wrote:Since we've been doing math I'll shift it back towards DSOs:

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1. Which DSO is depicted in this image? What galaxy is it in?
2. This DSO was especially bright in a particular wavelength, which is the wavelength used in the image above. Which wavelength is this?
3. The occurrence of this DSO gave insight into the progenitors of events like this. What, most likely, was the progenitor system of this DSO? Be specific.
4. Why was this event so important to cosmology and the field of astronomy as a whole?
1. SN 2011fe, Pinwheel Galaxy
2. Ultraviolet
3. The progenitor system was not a double degenerate, and the companion to the C/O white dwarf was most likely a relatively low mass main sequence star
4. It was a very "normal" type Ia supernova that was observed very early and accurately. As a result, it could be used to test models and ultimately provides a point of reference in the field
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Adi1008 wrote:
Magikarpmaster629 wrote:Since we've been doing math I'll shift it back towards DSOs:

Image
1. Which DSO is depicted in this image? What galaxy is it in?
2. This DSO was especially bright in a particular wavelength, which is the wavelength used in the image above. Which wavelength is this?
3. The occurrence of this DSO gave insight into the progenitors of events like this. What, most likely, was the progenitor system of this DSO? Be specific.
4. Why was this event so important to cosmology and the field of astronomy as a whole?
1. SN 2011fe, Pinwheel Galaxy
2. Ultraviolet
3. The progenitor system was not a double degenerate, and the companion to the C/O white dwarf was most likely a relatively low mass main sequence star
4. It was a very "normal" type Ia supernova that was observed very early and accurately. As a result, it could be used to test models and ultimately provides a point of reference in the field
Good answer to (3). Your turn.
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Re: Astronomy C

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Magikarpmaster629 wrote:
Adi1008 wrote:
Magikarpmaster629 wrote:Since we've been doing math I'll shift it back towards DSOs:

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1. Which DSO is depicted in this image? What galaxy is it in?
2. This DSO was especially bright in a particular wavelength, which is the wavelength used in the image above. Which wavelength is this?
3. The occurrence of this DSO gave insight into the progenitors of events like this. What, most likely, was the progenitor system of this DSO? Be specific.
4. Why was this event so important to cosmology and the field of astronomy as a whole?
1. SN 2011fe, Pinwheel Galaxy
2. Ultraviolet
3. The progenitor system was not a double degenerate, and the companion to the C/O white dwarf was most likely a relatively low mass main sequence star
4. It was a very "normal" type Ia supernova that was observed very early and accurately. As a result, it could be used to test models and ultimately provides a point of reference in the field
Good answer to (3). Your turn.
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Determine which one(s), if any, are Type Ia supernovae
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Adi1008 wrote:
Determine which one(s), if any, are Type Ia supernovae
Only A is an SN Ia (I think)
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Magikarpmaster629 wrote:
Adi1008 wrote:
Determine which one(s), if any, are Type Ia supernovae
Only A is an SN Ia (I think)
yea. B is II, C is Ic, and D is Ib
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