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Re: Strongest Invitationals?

Postby CVMSAvalacheStudent » February 9th, 2017, 4:29 pm

Div B:
1. Wright State (has been top pretty consistently in B)
2. Mira Loma (this and the next two because NorCal B teams are really strong right now)
3. Mountain House, Mesa-Wilson, Churchill, Mentor, Westlake, Kenston, probably one or two IL tournaments (but again, I don't know much about that area)
4. Probably Rustin (would have been tier 3 if not for snow), Boyceville, Cornell, a few IL and MI tourneys that I don't know about, Dodgen, Chattahoochee (though hopefully we'll be higher next year :D )
5. no idea
Yeah that Mira Loma one stepped up a notch getting Daniel Wright out as well. Any event with Kennedy and Churchill and Kraemer and/or Jeffrey Trail is going to be rough (why they're your #3), throw in the #1 team from last year and some more bay area teams and woof, tough tourney.
I agree, but that only applies if you're in Southern California but by far the MIT or Cornell invitationals are the hardest. I have placed above Kraemar and Jeffrey Trail in all my events, but they are good, if not great.
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Re: Strongest Invitationals?

Postby Unome » February 9th, 2017, 4:44 pm

Div B:
1. Wright State (has been top pretty consistently in B)
2. Mira Loma (this and the next two because NorCal B teams are really strong right now)
3. Mountain House, Mesa-Wilson, Churchill, Mentor, Westlake, Kenston, probably one or two IL tournaments (but again, I don't know much about that area)
4. Probably Rustin (would have been tier 3 if not for snow), Boyceville, Cornell, a few IL and MI tourneys that I don't know about, Dodgen, Chattahoochee (though hopefully we'll be higher next year :D )
5. no idea
Yeah that Mira Loma one stepped up a notch getting Daniel Wright out as well. Any event with Kennedy and Churchill and Kraemer and/or Jeffrey Trail is going to be rough (why they're your #3), throw in the #1 team from last year and some more bay area teams and woof, tough tourney.
I agree, but that only applies if you're in Southern California but by far the MIT or Cornell invitationals are the hardest. I have placed above Kraemar and Jeffrey Trail in all my events, but they are good, if not great.
I really wouldn't rank Cornell anywhere near MIT in terms of competitiveness; just take a look at the teams competing.
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Re: Strongest Invitationals?

Postby CVMSAvalacheStudent » February 9th, 2017, 4:45 pm


Yeah that Mira Loma one stepped up a notch getting Daniel Wright out as well. Any event with Kennedy and Churchill and Kraemer and/or Jeffrey Trail is going to be rough (why they're your #3), throw in the #1 team from last year and some more bay area teams and woof, tough tourney.
I agree, but that only applies if you're in Southern California but by far the MIT or Cornell invitationals are the hardest. I have placed above Kraemar and Jeffrey Trail in all my events, but they are good, if not great.
I really wouldn't rank Cornell anywhere near MIT in terms of competitiveness; just take a look at the teams competing.
Thanks for pointing it out. MIT really is the hardest.
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Re: Strongest Invitationals?

Postby maxxxxx » February 9th, 2017, 7:28 pm


Yeah that Mira Loma one stepped up a notch getting Daniel Wright out as well. Any event with Kennedy and Churchill and Kraemer and/or Jeffrey Trail is going to be rough (why they're your #3), throw in the #1 team from last year and some more bay area teams and woof, tough tourney.
I agree, but that only applies if you're in Southern California but by far the MIT or Cornell invitationals are the hardest. I have placed above Kraemar and Jeffrey Trail in all my events, but they are good, if not great.
I really wouldn't rank Cornell anywhere near MIT in terms of competitiveness; just take a look at the teams competing.
Yeah UPenn is probably more competitive than Cornell this year just from the teams attending and it's only its first year.
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Re: Strongest Invitationals?

Postby kenniky » February 9th, 2017, 9:07 pm

UPenn is also literally in Philadelphia with relatively easy access from PA, NJ and NY

Cornell, meanwhile, is in the middle of nowhere upstate New York
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Re: Strongest Invitationals?

Postby jakool6 » February 10th, 2017, 11:24 am

I'm just going to list them in tiers, since sometimes it's really hard to distinguish.

Div C:
1. MIT (by a lot)
2. Wright State (they wouldn't have been here last year, MIT stole their thunder), Golden Gate
3. Mira Loma, Westlake, Mentor, Troy, Cornell
4. UPenn, Solon, Princeton, Rice (though the TX teams were very split), Valley Forge
5. idk maybe Boyceville, depends how the area's teams are doing. Possibly Kenston and WL-S too. A few IL and MI tournaments could be put here, but I don't know enough about those areas.

If you hadn't already heard, Twin Tiers is basically dead.

Div B:
1. Wright State (has been top pretty consistently in B)
2. Mira Loma (this and the next two because NorCal B teams are really strong right now)
3. Mountain House, Mesa-Wilson, Churchill, Mentor, Westlake, Kenston, probably one or two IL tournaments (but again, I don't know much about that area)
4. Probably Rustin (would have been tier 3 if not for snow), Boyceville, Cornell, a few IL and MI tourneys that I don't know about, Dodgen, Chattahoochee (though hopefully we'll be higher next year :D )
5. no idea

Edit: Agree with mostly everything East says above
I dunno if Mentor will be AS competitive as Westlake.

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Re: Strongest Invitationals?

Postby Unome » February 10th, 2017, 11:36 am

I'm just going to list them in tiers, since sometimes it's really hard to distinguish.

Div C:
1. MIT (by a lot)
2. Wright State (they wouldn't have been here last year, MIT stole their thunder), Golden Gate
3. Mira Loma, Westlake, Mentor, Troy, Cornell
4. UPenn, Solon, Princeton, Rice (though the TX teams were very split), Valley Forge
5. idk maybe Boyceville, depends how the area's teams are doing. Possibly Kenston and WL-S too. A few IL and MI tournaments could be put here, but I don't know enough about those areas.

If you hadn't already heard, Twin Tiers is basically dead.

Div B:
1. Wright State (has been top pretty consistently in B)
2. Mira Loma (this and the next two because NorCal B teams are really strong right now)
3. Mountain House, Mesa-Wilson, Churchill, Mentor, Westlake, Kenston, probably one or two IL tournaments (but again, I don't know much about that area)
4. Probably Rustin (would have been tier 3 if not for snow), Boyceville, Cornell, a few IL and MI tourneys that I don't know about, Dodgen, Chattahoochee (though hopefully we'll be higher next year :D )
5. no idea

Edit: Agree with mostly everything East says above
I dunno if Mentor will be AS competitive as Westlake.
I put it even based on Rustin and F-M, but I guess we'll see whether those two are strong enough this year to make it even.
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Re: Strongest Invitationals?

Postby jakool6 » February 10th, 2017, 12:53 pm

I put it even based on Rustin and F-M, but I guess we'll see whether those two are strong enough this year to make it even.
I'm worried the most about Chardon.

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Re: Strongest Invitationals?

Postby fanjiatian » February 10th, 2017, 1:39 pm

Timing of the tournament also has an impact on the composition of teams.

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Re: Strongest Invitationals?

Postby Unome » February 10th, 2017, 2:02 pm

I put it even based on Rustin and F-M, but I guess we'll see whether those two are strong enough this year to make it even.
I'm worried the most about Chardon.
As usual, I forgot about Chardon. They tend not to get noticed as much outside of Ohio, but they're probably near the same level as Rustin (maybe higher, depending on how good Rustin is this year).
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