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beaverkid wrote:
H_zhang wrote:
beaverkid wrote:Did you medal in any of your events?
i have 6 events and 1st placed all of them
I don't believe it too.
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San diego regionals are different--the highest score wins. That being said,
1. Carmel Valley Cosmos (306)
2. Oak Valley DaVinci (257)
3. Mesa Verde Explorer (228)
4. Black Mountain Sushi (222)
5. Carmel Valley Shockwave (212) *
6. Black Mountain Boba (193)*
7. Carmel Valley Thunder (192) *
8. Carmel Valley Galaxy (148)*
8. Oak Valley Edison (148)*
10. Carmel Valley Eclipse (147)*
11. Pacific Trails Poseidon (146)

*Placing was not announced at award ceremony because the school had a higher placing team.

Huge gap between first and second, larger than I had imagined myself. Any thoughts?
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Re: Southern California 2017

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Entomology wrote:San diego regionals are different--the highest score wins. That being said,
1. Carmel Valley Cosmos (306)
2. Oak Valley DaVinci (257)
3. Mesa Verde Explorer (228)
4. Black Mountain Sushi (222)
5. Carmel Valley Shockwave (212) *
6. Black Mountain Boba (193)*
7. Carmel Valley Thunder (192) *
8. Carmel Valley Galaxy (148)*
8. Oak Valley Edison (148)*
10. Carmel Valley Eclipse (147)*
11. Pacific Trails Poseidon (146)

*Placing was not announced at award ceremony because the school had a higher placing team.
Huge gap between first and second, larger than I had imagined myself. Any thoughts?
Could you explain the scoring specifically? There's no way these scores could line up with 117 teams without their being a points cutoff.
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Re: Southern California 2017

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Unome wrote:
Entomology wrote:San diego regionals are different--the highest score wins. That being said,
1. Carmel Valley Cosmos (306)
2. Oak Valley DaVinci (257)
3. Mesa Verde Explorer (228)
4. Black Mountain Sushi (222)
5. Carmel Valley Shockwave (212) *
6. Black Mountain Boba (193)*
7. Carmel Valley Thunder (192) *
8. Carmel Valley Galaxy (148)*
8. Oak Valley Edison (148)*
10. Carmel Valley Eclipse (147)*
11. Pacific Trails Poseidon (146)

*Placing was not announced at award ceremony because the school had a higher placing team.
Huge gap between first and second, larger than I had imagined myself. Any thoughts?
Could you explain the scoring specifically? There's no way these scores could line up with 117 teams without their being a points cutoff.
I don't know the actual scores, but the scoring for San Diego is as follows: There were 117 teams from 35 schools. There are 20 awards for each event. First place in each event is worth 21 points, 2nd place 20 points, etc so that 20th place is 2 points. For those participating but not earning a medal, they get 1 point. No points are awarded if a team did not participate in the event.

For team trophies, the best performing team for each school is ranked. There are up to six teams from each school, but only the top team from the school is eligible for the team trophy. I know there was a scoring issue reported after the regional which did change the standings. Black Mountain and Mesa Verde switched spots. Design 39 school also moved up to 9th, but did not qualify for state.

This is the current placing for the schools qualifying for state:

1 Carmel Valley
2 Oak Valley
3 Black Mountain
4 Mesa Verde
5 Pacific Trails
6 Meadowbrook
7 Ocean Air
8 Marshall
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sandvinsd wrote:
Unome wrote:
Entomology wrote:San diego regionals are different--the highest score wins. That being said,
1. Carmel Valley Cosmos (306)
2. Oak Valley DaVinci (257)
3. Mesa Verde Explorer (228)
4. Black Mountain Sushi (222)
5. Carmel Valley Shockwave (212) *
6. Black Mountain Boba (193)*
7. Carmel Valley Thunder (192) *
8. Carmel Valley Galaxy (148)*
8. Oak Valley Edison (148)*
10. Carmel Valley Eclipse (147)*
11. Pacific Trails Poseidon (146)

*Placing was not announced at award ceremony because the school had a higher placing team.
Huge gap between first and second, larger than I had imagined myself. Any thoughts?
Could you explain the scoring specifically? There's no way these scores could line up with 117 teams without their being a points cutoff.
I don't know the actual scores, but the scoring for San Diego is as follows: There were 117 teams from 35 schools. There are 20 awards for each event. First place in each event is worth 21 points, 2nd place 20 points, etc so that 20th place is 2 points. For those participating but not earning a medal, they get 1 point. No points are awarded if a team did not participate in the event.

For team trophies, the best performing team for each school is ranked. There are up to six teams from each school, but only the top team from the school is eligible for the team trophy. I know there was a scoring issue reported after the regional which did change the standings. Black Mountain and Mesa Verde switched spots. Design 39 school also moved up to 9th, but did not qualify for state.

This is the current placing for the schools qualifying for state:

1 Carmel Valley
2 Oak Valley
3 Black Mountain
4 Mesa Verde
5 Pacific Trails
6 Meadowbrook
7 Ocean Air
8 Marshall
Ok, so reverse scoring with a cutoff at 21. For others who may care, essentially 23*21 - score will give the score in the usual format (though one cannot adjust for the points cutoff without knowing raw scores).
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Unome wrote:
sandvinsd wrote:
Unome wrote: Could you explain the scoring specifically? There's no way these scores could line up with 117 teams without their being a points cutoff.
I don't know the actual scores, but the scoring for San Diego is as follows: There were 117 teams from 35 schools. There are 20 awards for each event. First place in each event is worth 21 points, 2nd place 20 points, etc so that 20th place is 2 points. For those participating but not earning a medal, they get 1 point. No points are awarded if a team did not participate in the event.

For team trophies, the best performing team for each school is ranked. There are up to six teams from each school, but only the top team from the school is eligible for the team trophy. I know there was a scoring issue reported after the regional which did change the standings. Black Mountain and Mesa Verde switched spots. Design 39 school also moved up to 9th, but did not qualify for state.

This is the current placing for the schools qualifying for state:

1 Carmel Valley
2 Oak Valley
3 Black Mountain
4 Mesa Verde
5 Pacific Trails
6 Meadowbrook
7 Ocean Air
8 Marshall
Ok, so reverse scoring with a cutoff at 21. For others who may care, essentially 23*21 - score will give the score in the usual format (though one cannot adjust for the points cutoff without knowing raw scores).
I believe there were less than 117 teams participating.
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Re: Southern California 2017

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CVMSAvalacheStudent wrote:
Unome wrote:
sandvinsd wrote:
I don't know the actual scores, but the scoring for San Diego is as follows: There were 117 teams from 35 schools. There are 20 awards for each event. First place in each event is worth 21 points, 2nd place 20 points, etc so that 20th place is 2 points. For those participating but not earning a medal, they get 1 point. No points are awarded if a team did not participate in the event.

For team trophies, the best performing team for each school is ranked. There are up to six teams from each school, but only the top team from the school is eligible for the team trophy. I know there was a scoring issue reported after the regional which did change the standings. Black Mountain and Mesa Verde switched spots. Design 39 school also moved up to 9th, but did not qualify for state.

This is the current placing for the schools qualifying for state:

1 Carmel Valley
2 Oak Valley
3 Black Mountain
4 Mesa Verde
5 Pacific Trails
6 Meadowbrook
7 Ocean Air
8 Marshall
Ok, so reverse scoring with a cutoff at 21. For others who may care, essentially 23*21 - score will give the score in the usual format (though one cannot adjust for the points cutoff without knowing raw scores).
I believe there were less than 117 teams participating.
Unless I'm completely confused, it looks like there were 120 teams actually. There were 117 teams at San Diego Regionals. Several of which probably didn't do all 23 events making it seem like less teams were present.
But anyway, the overall team scoring seems a bit odd as everyone beyond the top 20 seem to have gotten 1 point and the DQ'ed teams got 0 points to their total (highest total score in San Diego wins). Although from what I've looked at the ranking of the schools is pretty much the same no matter how you look at it.
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rgandhi2002 wrote:
CVMSAvalacheStudent wrote:
Unome wrote: Ok, so reverse scoring with a cutoff at 21. For others who may care, essentially 23*21 - score will give the score in the usual format (though one cannot adjust for the points cutoff without knowing raw scores).
I believe there were less than 117 teams participating.
Unless I'm completely confused, it looks like there were 120 teams actually. There were 117 teams at San Diego Regionals. Several of which probably didn't do all 23 events making it seem like less teams were present.
But anyway, the overall team scoring seems a bit odd as everyone beyond the top 20 seem to have gotten 1 point and the DQ'ed teams got 0 points to their total (highest total score in San Diego wins). Although from what I've looked at the ranking of the schools is pretty much the same no matter how you look at it.
Okay, now it makes sense thanks
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They also messed up a little bit on scoring--the B2 tests were not graded for 3 events. Ultimately, this did not affect the teams going to state, but 2 school rankings changed. Black Mountain moved to 3rd and Design 39 moved up to 9th.
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Entomology wrote:They also messed up a little bit on scoring--the B2 tests were not graded for 3 events. Ultimately, this did not affect the teams going to state, but 2 school rankings changed. Black Mountain moved to 3rd and Design 39 moved up to 9th.

So Mesa Verde got fourth. I was wondering how Torrey Hills placed and not Design 39.
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