Poll: Who Will Win C Division at Nationals in 2009?

Who Will Win C Division at Nationals in 2009?

Centerville High School
14
16%
Fayetteville-Manlius High School
5
6%
Grand Haven High School
4
5%
Harriton High School
19
22%
Mentor High School
0
No votes
Penncrest High School
5
6%
Poudre High School
3
4%
Troy High School
28
33%
West Windsor-Plainsboro High School North
1
1%
Other
6
7%
 
Total votes: 85

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Re: Poll: Who Will Win C Division at Nationals in 2009?

Postby MI » May 5th, 2009, 3:24 pm

Does MI drop the lowest scores then? You can't get in the fifty's and bomb events, if you got first even in 19 events that would leave 30 points for bombing, in four events, and that's assuming you got first in all other 19.
sorry, i wasnt clear. i meant 65 total for the 19 events they medalled in. i forget what they got in the other events.
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Re: Poll: Who Will Win C Division at Nationals in 2009?

Postby EastStroudsburg13 » May 5th, 2009, 3:28 pm

Aaah, so maybe they aren't as dominant as we thought they were. 19 medals is a lot for MI though...
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Re: Poll: Who Will Win C Division at Nationals in 2009?

Postby Deeisenberg » May 5th, 2009, 4:17 pm

Sorry for the maker of this poll, but it's West Windsor-Plainsboro South, not North this year. I know normally it's North, not South, but they had a change this year. :D
Sorry, and congratulations at making it to nationals to WWPSHS.
Also MI scores are up.

It seems that generally Grand Haven did phenomenally... but they bombed 4 events. While they got top 5 in 17 events, and 6th in 2 more, the total of the events that did not do very well was 115 points. The total of their events scoring 6th and above was only 65. They got first over the second place team by only 2 points. The general weaknesses were in building events, including Junkyard, Egg, and EV.

I wish them the best of luck, and I really do like Grand Haven, they are generally a very strong and friendly team. Now the fact that it was building that they didn't do as well in could be good, in that it is not unusual for building events to have mishaps that cost a team seriously. However it is also bad in that there is very little time to actually change a building event between their very late states and nationals.

Really nationals could go any which way for Grand Haven, and for anyone else really. We don't know the whole story. Perhaps the other teams in Michigan are getting better, specifically Plymouth Christian. I mean there are many factors that need to be considered. At any rate, good luck to Grand Haven, as well as all of the other teams that are going to nationals, and congratulations on making it there.
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Re: Poll: Who Will Win C Division at Nationals in 2009?

Postby packer-backer91 » May 5th, 2009, 4:47 pm

we dont drop the bad scores we just give all teams that are over 40th place a 40 personally I just dont think they want to tell a team that you were dead last (Grand Haven won by 2 points but they had two event that placed very badly. I do think that they still have a high chance of being a top 3 team this year)

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Re: Poll: Who Will Win C Division at Nationals in 2009?

Postby croman74 » May 5th, 2009, 4:55 pm

If Grand Haven can work on those building events during the 2 weeks they have between states and nats, then they can definitely win. However if these aren't fixed, they will probably cost them a win. I'm guessing that they will improve these. Good luck to them at nats. It's always nice to see a MI team win.
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Re: Poll: Who Will Win C Division at Nationals in 2009?

Postby plymouthian » May 5th, 2009, 5:29 pm

i am hoping for grand haven.... and you never know with gr. christian either... if they are motivated they could do really well

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Re: Poll: Who Will Win C Division at Nationals in 2009?

Postby anon y mouse » May 5th, 2009, 6:20 pm

For those wondering:

NY States - F-M got 172
http://newyorkscioly.org/SOPages/cstate2009.html

MI States - Grand Haven got 180
http://scioly.cns.msu.edu/documents/09divCfinal.xls

Southern CA States - Troy got 82
http://socalscioly.org/downloads/CA%20s ... eboard.pdf

OH States - Centerville got 100, Mentor got 126
http://www.ced.osu.edu/scioly/2009_c_sc ... esults.pdf

PA States - Harriton got 65
http://projects.juniata.edu/scioly/paco ... scores.pdf

CO States - Poudre got 80
http://www.pphsg.org/so/stateweb/statec2009.xls

None of this means very much of course, as the strength of state competitions vary. But still interesting, especially if you delve into the intrastate data.

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Re: Poll: Who Will Win C Division at Nationals in 2009?

Postby croman74 » May 5th, 2009, 6:28 pm

i am hoping for grand haven.... and you never know with gr. christian either... if they are motivated they could do really well
I think that Grand Rapids Christian can do pretty well. Maybe in the top 20.
I see that you're from Plymouth Christian. You guys are pretty competitive at state level. Good job this year.
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Re: Poll: Who Will Win C Division at Nationals in 2009?

Postby fmtiger124 » May 6th, 2009, 5:44 am

For those wondering:

NY States - F-M got 172
http://newyorkscioly.org/SOPages/cstate2009.html

MI States - Grand Haven got 180
http://scioly.cns.msu.edu/documents/09divCfinal.xls

Southern CA States - Troy got 82
http://socalscioly.org/downloads/CA%20s ... eboard.pdf

OH States - Centerville got 100, Mentor got 126
http://www.ced.osu.edu/scioly/2009_c_sc ... esults.pdf

PA States - Harriton got 65
http://projects.juniata.edu/scioly/paco ... scores.pdf

CO States - Poudre got 80
http://www.pphsg.org/so/stateweb/statec2009.xls

None of this means very much of course, as the strength of state competitions vary. But still interesting, especially if you delve into the intrastate data.
thats useful but hard to gauge due to different competitiveness rates
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Re: Poll: Who Will Win C Division at Nationals in 2009?

Postby srsvball95 » May 6th, 2009, 6:50 am

Just throwing this out there:

LASA from Texas got 38 at state and beat the second place team by 100 points.

I'm not in Division C and I don't know which teams are the powerhouses but personally, I think that they are going to do really well this year.
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