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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby scienceolympiadist » July 2nd, 2009, 7:16 am

tad_k_22 wrote:The kid above is right---UIUC is a great school. Nothing in the top 50 is laughable, especially with today's college admissions. SATs and Grades don't mean everything---and with many schools, they barely mean anything. It's a much different process than you'd expect, and if anybody that was a sophomore or junior and managed to win a gold at nats got the scholarship they should seriously consider UIUC, especially if going to an ivy-type school would be a burden on your family financially.


hey, seniors can seriously consider it too. that's what we've been discussing here!

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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby Deeisenberg » July 2nd, 2009, 7:07 pm

I will be a senior, and while I will definitely apply, and hope for the scholarship, I will try to weasel my way into getting it for multiple past national firsts in order to ensure I get it. I highly doubt it will work, but I know someone on our team who was an alternate when we got a team first, and even though she didn't compete they extended the offer. I would have to be very lucky for that to work. At any rate, while I think any senior without a problem with the UIUC should certainly apply, the offer is much more practical and especially more convenient for underclassmen and juniors.
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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

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inuyashakusho wrote:I will be a senior, and while I will definitely apply, and hope for the scholarship, I will try to weasel my way into getting it for multiple past national firsts in order to ensure I get it. I highly doubt it will work, but I know someone on our team who was an alternate when we got a team first, and even though she didn't compete they extended the offer. I would have to be very lucky for that to work. At any rate, while I think any senior without a problem with the UIUC should certainly apply, the offer is much more practical and especially more convenient for underclassmen and juniors.


It'll definitely be more convenient for them. If they do win, they'll save themselves so much trouble by not having to live through the pain of college application process in their senior year. All they would need to do is apply to Illinois, and be done.

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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby fmtiger124 » July 3rd, 2009, 12:05 pm

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inuyashakusho wrote:I will be a senior, and while I will definitely apply, and hope for the scholarship, I will try to weasel my way into getting it for multiple past national firsts in order to ensure I get it. I highly doubt it will work, but I know someone on our team who was an alternate when we got a team first, and even though she didn't compete they extended the offer. I would have to be very lucky for that to work. At any rate, while I think any senior without a problem with the UIUC should certainly apply, the offer is much more practical and especially more convenient for underclassmen and juniors.


It'll definitely be more convenient for them. If they do win, they'll save themselves so much trouble by not having to live through the pain of college application process in their senior year. All they would need to do is apply to Illinois, and be done.

not necessarially--they still have to go visit the campus for an official tour--and who knows they might not like it or it could be too far away for them--there are a number of factors that would make them not take it
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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby binary010101 » July 3rd, 2009, 2:41 pm

It's still worth a lot, especially if you live outside of Illinois. Why wouldn't you take free money?
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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby Aia » July 3rd, 2009, 8:57 pm

Just a few thoughts about this, numberwise:

There are 23 events, so you could have at most 48 gold medalists (including Picture This and Experimental Design as 3 person events). Again ,this is assuming none of the medalists received multiple gold medals. Realistically, how many C division gold medal winners are seniors? Perhaps half? Or maybe even more like 60%? I would imagine that a significant number of these seniors would stick with original college plans.

The underlying thought here is this: how many students actually accept the scholarship? I believe the scholarship is a wonderful incentive, but I'm estimating only 50% of gold medalists take the scholarship in the long run. Not to mention, if you are winning gold medals at the national competition, you may have your sights set on even more prestigious colleges.

Then again, given the shape of the economy, who knows how many will accept the scholarship. This question is a tough one to pin down!
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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby andrewwski » July 3rd, 2009, 9:07 pm

I'd think that would sound about right. I received a full ride to one of the schools I applied to for next year (which I accepted), and while talking to somebody involved with that scholarship afterward, he said that on average about half of those awarded the scholarship actually use it, and about half still decide to go elsewhere. Given how late it's given, I could see the actual percentage being less.
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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby gyourkoshaven » July 3rd, 2009, 9:45 pm

I have much less knowledge and experience about this type of thing than the high schoolers, but I figure I'll throw in my two cents. If I were looking for an engineering major, then I would have a tough time turning down a free offer to attend one of the nation's top engineering institutions, regardless of my age. But I would actually be less likely to accept this if I was a sophomore. I mean what if you completely change your mind about what you want to do? If I was a junior, I'd have to figure out soon what I wanted to do and might just accept based on the fact that it's a pretty good university. And when you're a senior, obviously you're in big trouble if you don't know where you want to go to school by late May. Obviously everyone's unique economic situation will play a factor, as parents are less likely to say "We'll pay for wherever your talents take you" than "We'll pay for wherever your talents take you to a state school" in the recession.
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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby andrewwski » July 3rd, 2009, 10:27 pm

In essence, that makes sense. However, without knowing the details of the offer, I doubt you'd actually be committed to that school when the scholarship is awarded. I don't see why you couldn't still apply and enroll elsewhere.
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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby scienceolympiadist » July 6th, 2009, 5:36 am

of course upcoming seniors like myself will apply to other pretigious schools. but I'll keep Illinois as a viable option open to the very end. this way, you have other schools to go to, if you don't win 1st

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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby Deeisenberg » July 6th, 2009, 8:43 am

andrewwski wrote:In essence, that makes sense. However, without knowing the details of the offer, I doubt you'd actually be committed to that school when the scholarship is awarded. I don't see why you couldn't still apply and enroll elsewhere.

You must remember that almost every school has the same May 1st deadline that will have passed by the time of nationals. Most people will have to commit to either Illinois or another school before the scholarship would be awarded. I also don't think that U IL will extend the deadline if you win a gold (though I hope they do). I mean you could back out of going to a school after the deadline, and, if the UIUC would allow you to, go there, however you would likely lose a hefty deposit (though not nearly as hefty as tuition).
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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby scienceolympiadist » July 6th, 2009, 11:55 am

inuyashakusho wrote:You must remember that almost every school has the same May 1st deadline that will have passed by the time of nationals. Most people will have to commit to either Illinois or another school before the scholarship would be awarded. I also don't think that U IL will extend the deadline if you win a gold (though I hope they do). I mean you could back out of going to a school after the deadline, and, if the UIUC would allow you to, go there, however you would likely lose a hefty deposit (though not nearly as hefty as tuition).


actually, I contacted the Admission office at UIUC, and I was told that you can accept the commitance to UIUC by May 1st, and can withdrawl from it later (after Nationals). so, i guess you could just commit yourself to 2 schools (Illinois and other school) on May 1st, and withdrawl from one of them after Nationals

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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby tad_k_22 » July 6th, 2009, 12:01 pm

Your other school might not be all that happy about that.
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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby Deeisenberg » July 6th, 2009, 12:29 pm

They certainly would not be happy, but as far as I know, if you decide not to go to a school after accepting the final decision, all they can do is keep your deposit. (and be fairly angry at you)
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Re: 2010 Illinois Full-Ride

Postby scienceolympiadist » July 7th, 2009, 5:48 am

are there even monetary deposits due by May 1st? again, UIUC said there are none, except for housing contracts...


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