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Re: Mystery Architecture B

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Are structures measured in inches or centimeters, or does the supervisor get to decide?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe they are supposed to be measured in centimeters ( 5b on the rules manual for mystery).
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I think someone has already asked this, but I’ll ask anyway. For a cantilever, are we provided with a base or not? With a base would be like building it off of a table or something. No base would be having to make the cantilever freestanding.
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sciencepeeps wrote:I think someone has already asked this, but I’ll ask anyway. For a cantilever, are we provided with a base or not? With a base would be like building it off of a table or something. No base would be having to make the cantilever freestanding.
Yes I asked and am still awaiting an answer. Another option would be to anchor it to a wall. Is there any guidance?

Thanks.
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heiber wrote:
sciencepeeps wrote:I think someone has already asked this, but I’ll ask anyway. For a cantilever, are we provided with a base or not? With a base would be like building it off of a table or something. No base would be having to make the cantilever freestanding.
Yes I asked and am still awaiting an answer. Another option would be to anchor it to a wall. Is there any guidance?

Thanks.

My guess is that for cantilevers, event supervisors would need to provide a testing station like what they had for Boomilever years ago (before my time). I believe they had three hooks screwed into a vertical board to "hang" the cantilever from. This is hard because cantilevers are not available for event supervisors to choose until State, so they don't get the benefit of seeing how other event supervisors tested it during the season and all the problems that would have potentially arisen. It's possible that some State event supervisors will just opt not to test cantilevers and go for bridges or towers instead. You just don't really know what to expect. It's a "Mystery" I guess. :P
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Crtomir wrote:
heiber wrote:
sciencepeeps wrote:I think someone has already asked this, but I’ll ask anyway. For a cantilever, are we provided with a base or not? With a base would be like building it off of a table or something. No base would be having to make the cantilever freestanding.
Yes I asked and am still awaiting an answer. Another option would be to anchor it to a wall. Is there any guidance?

Thanks.

My guess is that for cantilevers, event supervisors would need to provide a testing station like what they had for Boomilever years ago (before my time). I believe they had three hooks screwed into a vertical board to "hang" the cantilever from. This is hard because cantilevers are not available for event supervisors to choose until State, so they don't get the benefit of seeing how other event supervisors tested it during the season and all the problems that would have potentially arisen. It's possible that some State event supervisors will just opt not to test cantilevers and go for bridges or towers instead. You just don't really know what to expect. It's a "Mystery" I guess. :P
I've seen Boomilevers done with 3 larger open hooks (you can choose to mount your device on 1, 2, or all 3 hooks), and I have seen them simply use a hole in the vertical plane of the mounting board, in which you install a 1/4" standard hex head bolt with a wing nut on the back. Who knows?
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I have built a couple of bridges and towers, but I will not do cantilevers unless we make it to nationals. The rules aren't too clear on the goals of the competition, so I was speculating on whether the structures would need to hold a load. Dunno, but I have been building with the goals of supporting weight in mind. If we are to support a load, how will they place the load on? Will it be like towers, with a loading block, or will they just put books and other stuff on top of the structure?

My partner and I have been primarily using a combination of rubber bands, masking tape, popsicle sticks, chopsticks, and rolled paper. Also wondering what materials you have been practicing with.
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Usually they will give you an objective and parameters such as:

Primary: Longest bridge that holds the load or tallest tower that holds the load
Secondary: Highest bridge or narrowest tower base

For the load, it will usually be a weight or object like a golf ball, tennis ball etc. Every team should get one so you can test while you build.
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Our team placed 3rd in Mystery Architecure at the Ohio State Tournament. They had to build a cantilever that hung off of a wall and held a 12 oz. soda can. See picture:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/A3LSSdkKkivtYxCW2

Unfortunately, the scoring was all messed up. The students were supposed to take their bag that that their team number on it and go to that station to build their cantilever. The event supervisors did not tell them that, so teams took their bags and numbers at random. Then, when they did the scoring, they recorded each team's score as if they were from the team number that was their bag/station number. Here, we were team #9, but our score got recorded for team #4 because we were at station #4. There was no way to back out what each team placed (not everyone will remember their station number). They could have turned this event into a trial event, but it would not have affected the team rankings.

I don't know what materials they had to work with. They said they were given a whole roll of tape to work with. Usually, they limit the amount of tape. It also looks like they had bamboo skewers to work with. Not sure how many.

Hope this helps those going to Nationals. Good luck.
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