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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby drcubbin » December 9th, 2017, 6:28 am

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Oldbulldog wrote:I am curious about the level of detail and depth to which students in Division B have to go in this event. For instance, do they need to know how to calculate molarity and perform a serial dilution using molarity?

I highly doubt we need to know how to calculate molarity


Correct. I am supervising 4 Potions & Poisons this year and moles (including molarity and molality) might be stretching it a bit, but yes, everything in the manual is open game :)

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby 808rain » December 12th, 2017, 11:44 am

How does this event work? Does one person do the written and the other the lab? What if we just have one person? Will they have enough time to do it all?

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby WhatScience? » December 13th, 2017, 3:18 pm

808rain wrote:How does this event work? Does one person do the written and the other the lab? What if we just have one person? Will they have enough time to do it all?


You should split up the test for study and both will prob do the lab..finishing depends how fast you are...like idk
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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby NeilMehta » December 13th, 2017, 4:33 pm

808rain wrote:How does this event work? Does one person do the written and the other the lab? What if we just have one person? Will they have enough time to do it all?


(comparing food science to potions) It was common for one person to do the lab and the other to complete the test, with both working closely to be able to help each other easily. However, there were some cases in which only one person was present to compete. In this case, it's completely possible to be successful, although it's generally necessary to optimize time to most effectively work towards points
Examples include:
1. (Responsibly and carefully) using waiting time in a lab to answer test questions (for example, waiting for water to boil in a Benedict's test in food science was valuable time that could be used for questions)
2. Prioritizing Part II over Part I - although Part II only has a 40% weight, it takes significantly less time to complete. Therefore, finishing the lab portion before working on the test portion can save you points in the event that you're pressured for time
3. Decreasing reliance on a notesheet - As much as notesheets are there to help, they can slow you down in many cases. Potions allows 5 sheets of notes, front and back, and looking through all of these notes can really strain time. "Desperation searches" for answers that might not even be in the notes take precious time that could instead be used to answer easier questions that are worth just the same amount

In most cases, for potions, you will have a partner. I personally don't believe in splitting the event into test for one partner and lab for the other, although others exercise this strategy at every competition.
Splitting knowledge is more effective IMO, as it focuses on on depth of information as well as question accuracy. With two partners, it is less common to get stuck on a question, as both partners have some level of information exclusive to themselves, as well as increased confidence and security on having someone else to work with. My strategy is to split the knowledge into sections of plants and chemicals, while both doing some research on environmental toxins. From what I've seen so far, competitions don't test as much on the environmental toxins, so it is safe to leave this category as a second priority. After completing the test, the lab goes much smoother with two partners.
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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby 808rain » December 14th, 2017, 12:51 pm

Thank you both for your thorough replies! :D

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby vehicleguy » December 29th, 2017, 4:19 pm

I notice that the rules say that the equipment must be put in a lab kit. Does that mean that I can't bring my materials in a box or other container?
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Postby Unome » December 29th, 2017, 4:44 pm

vehicleguy wrote:I notice that the rules say that the equipment must be put in a lab kit. Does that mean that I can't bring my materials in a box or other container?

A box should be fine. Notice that the term "Lab kit" is not defined narrowly. A box of around 2 ft by 1 from by ~8 inches deep (or possibly less) should work fine.
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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby vehicleguy » December 29th, 2017, 4:49 pm

Ok, thanks :D
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Team Test Exhange

Postby ASK8 » December 31st, 2017, 1:53 pm

Hey All,

I am a member of Kealing Science Olympiad (in Texas). I am starting a test swap with other teams (NOT IN TEXAS). If you have Potions and Poisons tests that you would be willing to swap with me from invitationals please respond to this or send them to me at anyakureshi8@gmail.com. I will then send you what tests I have to complete the swap.


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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby pandascienceolympiad » January 12th, 2018, 3:54 pm

Could anyone help me with the "toxic spills in the environment" part?
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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby cookie75 » January 14th, 2018, 7:51 am

pandascienceolympiad wrote:Could anyone help me with the "toxic spills in the environment" part?
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You should probably look at oil spill maps and such, the effects of toxins in specific areas, and how easy/ hard it is to keep toxins from spreading

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby SciNerd42 » January 17th, 2018, 4:03 am

Does anyone have any good practice labs that we can do to prepare for this event?

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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby WhatScience? » January 17th, 2018, 6:09 am

SciNerd42 wrote:Does anyone have any good practice labs that we can do to prepare for this event?

The only lab you really need to prep for is chromatography...the rest should be simple enough
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Re: Potions and Poisons B

Postby vehicleguy » January 17th, 2018, 7:45 am

You can always try mixing different candies with water and making observations such as color, ph, physical or chemical changes etc.
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Re: Potions and Poisons B_Conductivity Meter

Postby cindy0586 » January 23rd, 2018, 8:34 pm

Is anyone know what kind of Conductivity Meter should we use for this Potions and Poisons event.. There are so many kind of them.. Please help for your advise!!

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