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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by Person » September 5th, 2017, 5:25 pm

Official list put up here. It's interesting that they're allowing modified state/regs lists...I don't know if this was always the case for bio ID events, but I don't recall it happening in Entomology.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by Froggie » September 5th, 2017, 5:27 pm

Person wrote:Official list put up here. It's interesting that they're allowing modified state/regs lists...I don't know if this was always the case for bio ID events, but I don't recall it happening in Entomology.
It was allowed in invasives I think (I don't know about div c).
Also I'm excited to see that it is or is very close to the NY trial list.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by Person » September 5th, 2017, 5:40 pm

Froggie wrote:
Person wrote:Official list put up here. It's interesting that they're allowing modified state/regs lists...I don't know if this was always the case for bio ID events, but I don't recall it happening in Entomology.
It was allowed in invasives I think (I don't knkow about div c).
Also I'm excited to see that it is or is very close to the NY trial list.
Yeah, I do remember that invasives had it.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by Fluorine » September 5th, 2017, 7:03 pm

Person wrote:
Froggie wrote:
Person wrote:Official list put up here. It's interesting that they're allowing modified state/regs lists...I don't know if this was always the case for bio ID events, but I don't recall it happening in Entomology.
It was allowed in invasives I think (I don't knkow about div c).
Also I'm excited to see that it is or is very close to the NY trial list.
Yeah, I do remember that invasives had it.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by windu34 » September 6th, 2017, 10:24 pm

Magikarpmaster629 wrote:So how does this change reflect on being able to bring a hole-punched field guide inside a binder? The information in the binder may be in any form, and may be removed during competition, so naturally bringing a field guide inside a binder would be effectively the same as just bringing both, with the side effect of having a larger binder. I guess this is one for the rules clarification.
That is not effective. The best way is to copy all the information in the field guide and have it in your binder on the notesheet for each taxon. The name of the game is speed
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by windu34 » September 6th, 2017, 10:26 pm

Fluorine wrote:
Person wrote:
Froggie wrote: It was allowed in invasives I think (I don't knkow about div c).
Also I'm excited to see that it is or is very close to the NY trial list.
Yeah, I do remember that invasives had it.
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Lol i wouldnt know I just took the L at Regionals and States in Invasives that year (#13th)^2 :cry:
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Herpetology in PA question

Post by Raven » September 13th, 2017, 6:12 pm

Hi guys,

Does anyone know if Pennsylvania is making a different Herpetology list for regionals/states and if so, when it's going to come out? Thanks!
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Re: Herpetology in PA question

Post by Person » September 13th, 2017, 6:35 pm

Raven wrote:Hi guys,

Does anyone know if Pennsylvania is making a different Herpetology list for regionals/states and if so, when it's going to come out? Thanks!
If there is, it'd be posted by November 1st.
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by Kenshi Takahashi » September 15th, 2017, 6:46 pm

Hey everyone!

I was a little confused about how identification would work in Herpetology. I was an Invasive Main for two years, and identification in Invasives was simple enough as each species was separate. You were shown a picture of, say, Rock Snot, and that was that.
However, in Herpetology, if you were shown a picture of, say, a Box Turtle, you would only identify it as a "Box Turtle" and not Common Box Turtle, Spotted Box Turtle, Eastern Box Turtle, etc.

Which brings me to my question. How would one go about making a binder for this event? For Invasives, there'd be an entry for, say, Asian Citrus Psyllid, and then Brown Marmorated Stink Bug, and so on. However, for Herps, identification seems vastly different, and I am at a loss for how to correctly make a binder to account for all the different species.

Organizing by "Common Name" on the list (i.e. one entry for Box Turtles, then Western Pond Turtles, and so on) seems like it might make sense, other than the fact that there are a TON of different Box Turtles, each with their individual distributions, anatomy, repdroduction, etc., and one factsheet for Box Turtles would have to contain individual information for a bunch of different kinds of Box Turtles.

Any help, ideas, or wisdom are appreciated. Thanks!
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Re: Herpetology B/C

Post by Froggie » September 16th, 2017, 12:27 pm

Kenshi Takahashi wrote:Hey everyone!

I was a little confused about how identification would work in Herpetology. I was an Invasive Main for two years, and identification in Invasives was simple enough as each species was separate. You were shown a picture of, say, Rock Snot, and that was that.
However, in Herpetology, if you were shown a picture of, say, a Box Turtle, you would only identify it as a "Box Turtle" and not Common Box Turtle, Spotted Box Turtle, Eastern Box Turtle, etc.

Which brings me to my question. How would one go about making a binder for this event? For Invasives, there'd be an entry for, say, Asian Citrus Psyllid, and then Brown Marmorated Stink Bug, and so on. However, for Herps, identification seems vastly different, and I am at a loss for how to correctly make a binder to account for all the different species.

Organizing by "Common Name" on the list (i.e. one entry for Box Turtles, then Western Pond Turtles, and so on) seems like it might make sense, other than the fact that there are a TON of different Box Turtles, each with their individual distributions, anatomy, repdroduction, etc., and one factsheet for Box Turtles would have to contain individual information for a bunch of different kinds of Box Turtles.

Any help, ideas, or wisdom are appreciated. Thanks!
I'd say to do all the ID stuff up to the level on the list (i.e. if there was a picture of a box turtle just put box turtle).
But I have no idea about the third paragraph. That's a good question.
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