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Re: Science Olympiad at UPenn 2018 Invitational

Postby pb5754[] » February 18th, 2018, 8:41 am

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Raven wrote:When I was stacking, I added up LASA's scores and got 185 points, but the scoresheet says 162? Anybody know why?

This is also happening for some other events. I just re-added the event placings and I'm getting different values than the final score in the results.

Yeah I got that as well...

Maybe the scores are added wrong?????
Also, if you download the csv file, WWP South's hovercraft placement seems to be missing.

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Postby Synaptic_Cleft » February 18th, 2018, 8:41 am

Yea rocks and minerals wasn’t counted towards team scores because some people ended up moving samples around :o

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Postby pb5754[] » February 18th, 2018, 8:43 am

Synaptic_Cleft wrote:Yea rocks and minerals wasn’t counted towards team scores because some people ended up moving samples around :o
and why did the ESs allow that?? :?:
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Postby Raven » February 18th, 2018, 8:44 am

pb5754[] wrote:
Synaptic_Cleft wrote:Yea rocks and minerals wasn’t counted towards team scores because some people ended up moving samples around :o
and why did the ESs allow that?? :?:

Okay, I made another sheet without the rocks scores, you can access it if you go to the bottom of the spreadsheet.
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Postby GoldenKnight1 » February 18th, 2018, 8:44 am

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Synaptic_Cleft wrote:Yea rocks and minerals wasn’t counted towards team scores because some people ended up moving samples around :o
and why did the ESs allow that?? :?:

They were told not to but managing 30 stations can be difficult. It would have been better if the samples them had a label on them.

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Re: Science Olympiad at UPenn 2018 Invitational

Postby pb5754[] » February 18th, 2018, 8:50 am

Was LASA stacked???

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Postby Ashernoel » February 18th, 2018, 8:58 am

Rocks wasn’t scored because someone on our B team told the supervisor that the rocks had been moved around within each station. The supervisors interpreted this as, “I have moved Rocks from station to station,” so then they slashed the ID portion from all tests (90/200 points or something) and tiered him to last place, in a study event, lol. Also the grading was weird because the score for our other team in the test packet was far from the score on ezra, even without ID.
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Postby Synaptic_Cleft » February 18th, 2018, 9:00 am

No, there were also rocks that ended up at the wrong station unfortunately. The labeling idea is a good one for future tournaments!

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Postby JT880 » February 18th, 2018, 10:40 am

Congratulations to LASA for completely dominating and to everyone else that competed at UPenn yesterday! I thought that I'd post a view of my event reviews here:

Hovercraft (21) - Pretty good test! Probably a bit easier than the MIT test but definitely up there in terms of difficulty. I do wish there were a couple more fluid dynamics questions on there but nonetheless I was pleased with the test quality. The track was pretty well-made; our device just wasn't working properly so that's why we screwed up. Overall an A-

Mousetrap Vehicle (5) - Nothing much to say here other than this event was easily the highlight of my day. I thought that this event was run very well and the proctors definitely knew what they were doing. Also, does anybody know how LASA did in this event? Overall an A+

Dynamic Planet (45) - Man, I did not think we did that bad on the test here. It was definitely a well-written test but I guess my teammate and I misunderstood part of the test while taking it (I'll have to look at the test myself when we have our next team meeting). I thought the conceptual questions were pretty good and that it thoroughly tested the topics listed out in the rules manual. Overall an A

Thermodynamics (39) - I thought this event was pretty mediocre in terms of how it was run. Both our team and our A team measured the temperature of the water to be a couple degrees off the initial temperature and the volumes were a little bit off. I'll cut them some slack though; this event and Hovercraft are probably the most difficult events to run properly, and it was definitely not as bad as it was at MIT. The test on the other hand was pretty hard and I wish that I had prepared more for it. Overall a B-
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Postby Riptide » February 18th, 2018, 11:35 am

Anyone know how many questions there were on the Fermi Test?
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Riptide wrote:Anyone know how many questions there were on the Fermi Test?

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Postby EastStroudsburg13 » February 18th, 2018, 11:56 am

So even though there seemed to be issues with Rocks scoring, I did want to see how including those results affected scores to an extent. So I present the final scores with the Rocks places counting for half!

1. LASA - 173.5
2. Columbia - 233.5
3. Harriton B - 236.5
4. New Trier A - 242
5. Ward Melville A - 248
6. Harriton A - 250
7. WWP North A - 267
8. WWP North B - 269
9. Rustin - 329
10. Fairfax - 337.5
11. Conestoga A - 360.5
12. Penncrest - 388
13. Montgomery B - 389
14. South Brunswick A - 431
15. Shady Side A - 438.5
16. JP Stevens - 442
17. Princeton A - 461.5
18. Lower Merion - 464.5
18. WWP South B - 464.5*
20. WWP South A - 475.5
21. Montgomery A - 485.5
22. Syosset A - 505
23. Langley A - 531.5
24. Lower Merion B - 543.5
25. North Penn - 552
26. Chaminade A - 575.5
27. Conestoga B - 581
28. South Brunswick - 602.5
29. North Pocono A - 617
30. Parkland - 652
31. John Jay A - 657.5
32. JP Stevens - 660
33. East Brunswick - 662
34. New Trier B - 701.5
35. Cherry Hill East A - 719
36. Ward Melville B - 719.5
36. Garnet Valley - 719.5
38. Merrimack A - 743.5
39. North Pocono B - 780
40. Princeton B - 786.5
41. Langley B - 813.5
42. Whitehall - 818.5
43. Shipley - 829.5
44. John Jay B - 829.5
45. Masterman - 858
46. Cherry Hill East B - 932
47. Chaminade B - 952
48. Sun Valley - 961
49. Merrimack B - 1002.5
50. Syosset B - 1147.5
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Postby c0c05w311y » February 18th, 2018, 12:31 pm

Overall, a great competition! I'll provide some feedback on the events.

Astronomy: Really good test in my opinion. The questions were interesting. It wasn't too short or too long (although there's almost no such thing as too long in this kind of event).

Hovercraft: It was run well and the test was good. It was a little different from most tests I see in that it had a fair amount of word answers rather than just math questions. It didn't have any really big/difficult physics problems which I usually enjoy; it seemed to focus more on having a wide range of knowledge. The supervisors were efficient and organized when I was there, which is really important.

Rocks and Minerals: A bit of a mess tbh. Besides the fact that things were apparently moved around, which has been discussed, it was very cramped and there was so little time to do so many questions (plus the event started late and had to run over time). This test was really about efficiency since it was so hard and long. I think maybe having fewer questions so teams have more time to think about answers or look through the binder is better, but there's nothing unfair about having a really long test. Unfortunately my team concentrated on getting the identification based questions right, which is the part discarded for scoring. Lastly, I generally prefer when the short answer questions provided are related to the samples at that station, but it works either way.

Chem Lab: I don't normally do chem lab but it seemed like a really good test. My only suggestion is to provide a greater proportion of points for the lab. The lab took a fairly long time but wasn't worth very much it seemed.

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Re: Science Olympiad at UPenn 2018 Invitational

Postby DarthBuilder » February 18th, 2018, 1:25 pm

JT880 wrote:Congratulations to LASA for completely dominating and to everyone else that competed at UPenn yesterday! I thought that I'd post a view of my event reviews here:

Hovercraft (21) - Pretty good test! Probably a bit easier than the MIT test but definitely up there in terms of difficulty. I do wish there were a couple more fluid dynamics questions on there but nonetheless I was pleased with the test quality. The track was pretty well-made; our device just wasn't working properly so that's why we screwed up. Overall an A-

Mousetrap Vehicle (5) - Nothing much to say here other than this event was easily the highlight of my day. I thought that this event was run very well and the proctors definitely knew what they were doing. Also, does anybody know how LASA did in this event? Overall an A+

Dynamic Planet (45) - Man, I did not think we did that bad on the test here. It was definitely a well-written test but I guess my teammate and I misunderstood part of the test while taking it (I'll have to look at the test myself when we have our next team meeting). I thought the conceptual questions were pretty good and that it thoroughly tested the topics listed out in the rules manual. Overall an A

Thermodynamics (39) - I thought this event was pretty mediocre in terms of how it was run. Both our team and our A team measured the temperature of the water to be a couple degrees off the initial temperature and the volumes were a little bit off. I'll cut them some slack though; this event and Hovercraft are probably the most difficult events to run properly, and it was definitely not as bad as it was at MIT. The test on the other hand was pretty hard and I wish that I had prepared more for it. Overall a B-




I am not sure if I am allowed to post this but there first run was 0.8 cm off (It was said loud enough for the spectators to here) and their time was pretty good too.
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Re: Science Olympiad at UPenn 2018 Invitational

Postby antoine_ego » February 18th, 2018, 2:21 pm

DarthBuilder wrote:
JT880 wrote:Congratulations to LASA for completely dominating and to everyone else that competed at UPenn yesterday! I thought that I'd post a view of my event reviews here:

Hovercraft (21) - Pretty good test! Probably a bit easier than the MIT test but definitely up there in terms of difficulty. I do wish there were a couple more fluid dynamics questions on there but nonetheless I was pleased with the test quality. The track was pretty well-made; our device just wasn't working properly so that's why we screwed up. Overall an A-

Mousetrap Vehicle (5) - Nothing much to say here other than this event was easily the highlight of my day. I thought that this event was run very well and the proctors definitely knew what they were doing. Also, does anybody know how LASA did in this event? Overall an A+

Dynamic Planet (45) - Man, I did not think we did that bad on the test here. It was definitely a well-written test but I guess my teammate and I misunderstood part of the test while taking it (I'll have to look at the test myself when we have our next team meeting). I thought the conceptual questions were pretty good and that it thoroughly tested the topics listed out in the rules manual. Overall an A

Thermodynamics (39) - I thought this event was pretty mediocre in terms of how it was run. Both our team and our A team measured the temperature of the water to be a couple degrees off the initial temperature and the volumes were a little bit off. I'll cut them some slack though; this event and Hovercraft are probably the most difficult events to run properly, and it was definitely not as bad as it was at MIT. The test on the other hand was pretty hard and I wish that I had prepared more for it. Overall a B-




I am not sure if I am allowed to post this but there first run was 0.8 cm off (It was said loud enough for the spectators to here) and their time was pretty good too.


Checking Ezra says that their score was 14.72.
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