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Re: New Jersey 2018

Post by WhatScience? » October 2nd, 2017, 4:48 pm

The reason WW is always winning is because I am sure their team have some sort of system to help those coming in after them.

For us normal people, we all start at the deep end in a student managed club where the most experienced members are on their second year and the coach just buys stuff.

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Post by WhatScience? » October 2nd, 2017, 4:49 pm

Can't wait for regional events though...

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Post by whythelongface » October 2nd, 2017, 5:19 pm

WhatScience? wrote:The reason WW is always winning is because I am sure their team have some sort of system to help those coming in after them.

For us normal people, we all start at the deep end in a student managed club where the most experienced members are on their second year and the coach just buys stuff.
Community Middle School has a Science Olympiad Summer Camp, but that's mainly Division B powerhousing. For Division C, I don't think WW does too much. Like, we give them some lectures and stuff, but it's mainly just older kids telling younger ones how to format a notesheet, etc. I'm sure the reason the high schools do so well is because the middle schools do. Unfortunately, I never did Div B scioly, so I have no clue why that is.
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Post by WhatScience? » October 2nd, 2017, 6:24 pm

As someone in Div B, I can attest to the strength of Community. And yes, I do feel that we need greater opportunities and harder working team members if we wish to topple them of their evil throne.

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Post by Tailsfan101 » October 2nd, 2017, 6:27 pm

WhatScience? wrote:As someone in Div B, I can attest to the strength of Community. And yes, I do feel that we need greater opportunities and harder working team members if we wish to topple them of their evil throne.
Community has won 16 straight NJ titles, including two Nationals wins. So good luck with that!
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Post by whythelongface » October 2nd, 2017, 6:41 pm

Tailsfan101 wrote:
WhatScience? wrote:As someone in Div B, I can attest to the strength of Community. And yes, I do feel that we need greater opportunities and harder working team members if we wish to topple them of their evil throne.
Community has won 16 straight NJ titles, including two Nationals wins. So good luck with that!
This is true, but Community's Nats placement peaked and then fell into decline. All Div B teams must go the extra mile to defeat Community, but I feel like now more than ever, it's possible. Heck, since I'm from South, I want Grover to defeat Community, but it hasn't happened yet.
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Re: New Jersey 2018

Post by WhatScience? » October 2nd, 2017, 6:47 pm

Ya I do feel like Community had true talent that built their team up and then left a system to help others but Community has begun to take it for granted. We need to work harder.

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Re: New Jersey 2018

Post by Tailsfan101 » October 2nd, 2017, 6:57 pm

I think that maybe the case with powerhouses is that they take their dominance for granted, and then maybe start slacking. This is not saying they don't still try hard, but maybe worse teams have more incentive to try harder.
An example: My team (Treasure Valley Homeschool) contended against a team that regularly won Idaho state (St. Joseph's). After many successful years, they ended up in third place, 33 points behind us.
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Re: New Jersey 2018

Post by whythelongface » October 2nd, 2017, 7:00 pm

Tailsfan101 wrote:I think that maybe the case with powerhouses is that they take their dominance for granted, and then maybe start slacking. This is not saying they don't still try hard, but maybe worse teams have more incentive to try harder.
An example: My team (Treasure Valley Homeschool) contended against a team that regularly won Idaho state (St. Joseph's). After many successful years, they ended up in third place, 33 points behind us.
Better example: MONTGOMERY BEATING NORTH FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A DECADE
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Re: New Jersey 2018

Post by WhatScience? » October 2nd, 2017, 7:05 pm

whythelongface wrote:
Tailsfan101 wrote:I think that maybe the case with powerhouses is that they take their dominance for granted, and then maybe start slacking. This is not saying they don't still try hard, but maybe worse teams have more incentive to try harder.
An example: My team (Treasure Valley Homeschool) contended against a team that regularly won Idaho state (St. Joseph's). After many successful years, they ended up in third place, 33 points behind us.
Better example: MONTGOMERY BEATING NORTH FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A DECADE
Yeah Montgomery. I am more interested in B though because a.) I am in B and b.) North and South at least compete with each other. Community is just community

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