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Postby dxu46 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 1:07 am

Missouri Science Olympiad 2018!
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Invitationals
Pembroke Hill Invitational (December 2nd, 2017, Division B)
Pembroke Hill Invitational (January 6th, 2018, Division C)
Smithton Invitational (January 20th, 2018, Division B)
Northland Invitational (January 27th, 2018, Division C)
Warrensburg High School (February 3rd, 2018, Division B/C)

Regional Tournaments
Region 1: NW Missouri (February 24th, 2018 for Division B, February 3rd, 2018 for Division C)
Region 2: NE Missouri (February 24th, 2018 for both divisions)
Region 3: Kansas City Area (February 17th, 2018 for both divisions)
Region 4: Central West Missouri (February 24th, 2018 for both divisions)
Region 5: Central Missouri (February 17th, 2018 for both divisions)
Region 6: St. Louis Area (January 27th, 2018 for Division B, March 3rd, 2018 for Division C)
Region 7: SW Missouri (February 24th, 2018 for both divisions)
Region 8: SE Missouri (February 10th, 2018 for both divisions)

State Tournament
Westminster College, Fulton, MO (April 7th, 2018)

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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby Magikarpmaster629 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 2:41 am

Was hoping someone else who still lives in MO would take up this thread this year.

In other news, Missouri C has totally lost it's second bid seeing Texas' growth...looks like the ever-lasting Ladue vs. Pembroke showdown will finally culminate in a single victor.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby dxu46 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 6:54 pm

Magikarpmaster629 wrote:Was hoping someone else who still lives in MO would take up this thread this year.

In other news, Missouri C has totally lost it's second bid seeing Texas' growth...looks like the ever-lasting Ladue vs. Pembroke showdown will finally culminate in a single victor.


WHHAAAATT??? Since when????
Does that mean that Texas can have 3 teams?
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby Magikarpmaster629 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:00 pm

dxu46 wrote:
Magikarpmaster629 wrote:Was hoping someone else who still lives in MO would take up this thread this year.

In other news, Missouri C has totally lost it's second bid seeing Texas' growth...looks like the ever-lasting Ladue vs. Pembroke showdown will finally culminate in a single victor.


WHHAAAATT??? Since when????
Does that mean that Texas can have 3 teams?

Vermont is starting its state tournament this year, which means it gets its own nationals bid in each division, and these bids come from the states in each division that sent two teams to nats with the lowest number of total teams. For C this was between Missouri and Texas before we saw the number of teams per state for last year, but now that we know we can pretty confidently say it's Missouri. Missouri B still gets to send two teams, and a different state for B lost its second bid (I'd like to say Washington?).
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby Unome » Wed Sep 27, 2017 9:19 pm

Magikarpmaster629 wrote:
dxu46 wrote:
Magikarpmaster629 wrote:Was hoping someone else who still lives in MO would take up this thread this year.

In other news, Missouri C has totally lost it's second bid seeing Texas' growth...looks like the ever-lasting Ladue vs. Pembroke showdown will finally culminate in a single victor.


WHHAAAATT??? Since when????
Does that mean that Texas can have 3 teams?

Vermont is starting its state tournament this year, which means it gets its own nationals bid in each division, and these bids come from the states in each division that sent two teams to nats with the lowest number of total teams. For C this was between Missouri and Texas before we saw the number of teams per state for last year, but now that we know we can pretty confidently say it's Missouri. Missouri B still gets to send two teams, and a different state for B lost its second bid (I'd like to say Washington?).

Florida or Missouri are the two states most likely to lose their second Div B bid this year - Washington had a second Div B bid in 2016, but did not last year since New Hampshire expanded to Div B. Seeing Florida's growth in recent years the last two decades, I'd say even if Missouri keeps it this year, Florida will probably end up keeping the second bid in the long run.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby dxu46 » Wed Sep 27, 2017 11:06 pm

Unome wrote:
Magikarpmaster629 wrote:
dxu46 wrote:
WHHAAAATT??? Since when????
Does that mean that Texas can have 3 teams?

Vermont is starting its state tournament this year, which means it gets its own nationals bid in each division, and these bids come from the states in each division that sent two teams to nats with the lowest number of total teams. For C this was between Missouri and Texas before we saw the number of teams per state for last year, but now that we know we can pretty confidently say it's Missouri. Missouri B still gets to send two teams, and a different state for B lost its second bid (I'd like to say Washington?).

Florida or Missouri are the two states most likely to lose their second Div B bid this year - Washington had a second Div B bid in 2016, but did not last year since New Hampshire expanded to Div B. Seeing Florida's growth in recent years the last two decades, I'd say even if Missouri keeps it this year, Florida will probably end up keeping the second bid in the long run.

So there has to be exactly 60 teams for nationals for each division? (not counting Japan) And Missouri will be a 1-team state? When do we find this out officially?
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby chalker » Thu Sep 28, 2017 1:44 am

dxu46 wrote:
Unome wrote:
Magikarpmaster629 wrote:Vermont is starting its state tournament this year, which means it gets its own nationals bid in each division, and these bids come from the states in each division that sent two teams to nats with the lowest number of total teams. For C this was between Missouri and Texas before we saw the number of teams per state for last year, but now that we know we can pretty confidently say it's Missouri. Missouri B still gets to send two teams, and a different state for B lost its second bid (I'd like to say Washington?).

Florida or Missouri are the two states most likely to lose their second Div B bid this year - Washington had a second Div B bid in 2016, but did not last year since New Hampshire expanded to Div B. Seeing Florida's growth in recent years the last two decades, I'd say even if Missouri keeps it this year, Florida will probably end up keeping the second bid in the long run.

So there has to be exactly 60 teams for nationals for each division? (not counting Japan) And Missouri will be a 1-team state? When do we find this out officially?


Yes, there are exactly 60 teams at Nationals each year in each division. Each state gets 1 guaranteed slot (note that CA is technically divided into 2 states, Southern and Northern CA, each of which gets a slot). The remaining slots are assigned to states based upon their membership numbers for the year. These aren't finalized until the Jan/Feb time frame I think. Here's a map of last seasons breakdown: https://www.soinc.org/snapshots/national-member-map.

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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby Unome » Thu Sep 28, 2017 2:31 am

chalker wrote:
dxu46 wrote:
Unome wrote:Florida or Missouri are the two states most likely to lose their second Div B bid this year - Washington had a second Div B bid in 2016, but did not last year since New Hampshire expanded to Div B. Seeing Florida's growth in recent years the last two decades, I'd say even if Missouri keeps it this year, Florida will probably end up keeping the second bid in the long run.

So there has to be exactly 60 teams for nationals for each division? (not counting Japan) And Missouri will be a 1-team state? When do we find this out officially?


Yes, there are exactly 60 teams at Nationals each year in each division. Each state gets 1 guaranteed slot (note that CA is technically divided into 2 states, Southern and Northern CA, each of which gets a slot). The remaining slots are assigned to states based upon their membership numbers for the year. These aren't finalized until the Jan/Feb time frame I think. Here's a map of last seasons breakdown: https://www.soinc.org/snapshots/national-member-map.

dxu46: the National Tournament team numbers are typically released in late March/early April, which is when most of us will find out which teams get two bids.

This is the first time I've heard Jan/Feb cited as the time of finalizing that, but I assume chalker knows what he's talking about and that that's some kind of internal timeframe.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby Froggie » Thu Sep 28, 2017 9:16 pm

Just out of curiosity, why can nats only have 60 teams per division?
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby Magikarpmaster629 » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:18 pm

While I do appreciate the Missouri thread seeing some love, there have been countless discussions over the number of teams going to nats before in general chat, and there are two interesting Missouri things for this year besides the change in nats bids:

-Pembroke is starting up its invitational again, as confirmed by SOnerd

-and Clayton High, the high school fed by Wydown Middle (which just ousted Pembroke Middle from their nats bid for the first time in a while) has formed a team and is competing in region 6

This'll definitely be a close year for the single bid from these two teams and Ladue.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby Unome » Thu Sep 28, 2017 11:44 pm

Magikarpmaster629 wrote:While I do appreciate the Missouri thread seeing some love, there have been countless discussions over the number of teams going to nats before in general chat, and there are two interesting Missouri things for this year besides the change in nats bids:

-Pembroke is starting up its invitational again, as confirmed by SOnerd

-and Clayton High, the high school fed by Wydown Middle (which just ousted Pembroke Middle from their nats bid for the first time in a while) has formed a team and is competing in region 6

This'll definitely be a close year for the single bid from these two teams and Ladue.

St. James is also starting up their invitational again.

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Edit: wait, where's this info on Pembroke Hill's invitational? (shameless wiki plug)
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Postby EastStroudsburg13 » Fri Sep 29, 2017 11:13 am

Froggie wrote:Just out of curiosity, why can nats only have 60 teams per division?

60 has been about the maximum number of teams that is logistically possible to hold in one tournament without being unwieldy. Even increasing to 65 adds 10 entire teams to the mix. Expansion is probably not entirely out of the question in the future, but it seems unlikely, especially anytime soon.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby dxu46 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 11:11 pm

B division region 6 results:
1. Ladue
2. Wydown
3. Parkway NE
4. Parkway Central
5. Franklin

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Postby Skink » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:10 pm

Has C division region 6 met yet? I'd be very curious in how Clayton performed.

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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby alleycat03 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:03 pm

Has there been any new info on if Missouri will get 2 bids at Nats? Being from NE Kansas and seeing these teams all the time, I think the showdown between Pembroke and Ladue over 1 bid would be pretty interesting.
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