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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby dxu46 » April 29th, 2018, 6:15 pm

JVallurup47 wrote:
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hippo9 wrote:One point, just wow....

I heard the audience was really rude about this- cheering when Ladue got second, and cheering even more when they heard it was just one point.

pajobubo wrote:Kinda interested as to why Thermo got thrown out, what happened in the room and why they thought it was serious enough to toss it. It’s not like tossing events isn’t common, but still interesting to get the full scoop.

Not everyone was given thermometers. I don't see why they couldn't have just graded the test portion and not the build? Throwing out events is very uncommon for Missouri states, when there are constantly poor events run without throwing them out (see: Hydrogeology 2017 when I won the event because it was the Geologic Mapping test from the year before (although I didn't actually do Geomapping at competition besides that time I just studied for it)).


Another thing I heard was that ladue brought graphing calculators in many events that they weren’t allowed to. In optics they brought three graphing calcs instead of two.

Yeah, I kinda warned them, but...at least they didn't get disqualified ;)
Also apparently some of my teammates are saying that Wydown cheated in Hovercraft by having shielding or whatever? Can you confirm/deny?
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby hippo9 » April 29th, 2018, 6:21 pm

dxu46 wrote:
JVallurup47 wrote:
Magikarpmaster629 wrote:I heard the audience was really rude about this- cheering when Ladue got second, and cheering even more when they heard it was just one point.


Not everyone was given thermometers. I don't see why they couldn't have just graded the test portion and not the build? Throwing out events is very uncommon for Missouri states, when there are constantly poor events run without throwing them out (see: Hydrogeology 2017 when I won the event because it was the Geologic Mapping test from the year before (although I didn't actually do Geomapping at competition besides that time I just studied for it)).


Another thing I heard was that ladue brought graphing calculators in many events that they weren’t allowed to. In optics they brought three graphing calcs instead of two.

Yeah, I kinda warned them, but...at least they didn't get disqualified ;)
Also apparently some of my teammates are saying that Wydown cheated in Hovercraft by having shielding or whatever? Can you confirm/deny?

Ok I helped my schools hover team, and shielding is a safety requirementso I don't know how that would be cheating.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby dxu46 » April 29th, 2018, 6:28 pm

hippo9 wrote:
dxu46 wrote:
JVallurup47 wrote:
Another thing I heard was that ladue brought graphing calculators in many events that they weren’t allowed to. In optics they brought three graphing calcs instead of two.

Yeah, I kinda warned them, but...at least they didn't get disqualified ;)
Also apparently some of my teammates are saying that Wydown cheated in Hovercraft by having shielding or whatever? Can you confirm/deny?

Ok I helped my schools hover team, and shielding is a safety requirementso I don't know how that would be cheating.

Well, I don't know anything about hovercraft so maybe they didn't have shielding? The point is that our hovercraft team was really po'ed
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby hippo9 » April 29th, 2018, 6:39 pm

dxu46 wrote:
hippo9 wrote:
dxu46 wrote:Yeah, I kinda warned them, but...at least they didn't get disqualified ;)
Also apparently some of my teammates are saying that Wydown cheated in Hovercraft by having shielding or whatever? Can you confirm/deny?

Ok I helped my schools hover team, and shielding is a safety requirementso I don't know how that would be cheating.

Well, I don't know anything about hovercraft so maybe they didn't have shielding? The point is that our hovercraft team was really po'ed

Yeah not having shielding would be a major issue, but it would be a safety concern mainly, and I don't think it would really give them much of an edge.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby Skink » April 29th, 2018, 7:43 pm

Magikarpmaster629 wrote:Not everyone was given thermometers. I don't see why they couldn't have just graded the test portion and not the build? Throwing out events is very uncommon for Missouri states, when there are constantly poor events run without throwing them out (see: Hydrogeology 2017 when I won the event because it was the Geologic Mapping test from the year before (although I didn't actually do Geomapping at competition besides that time I just studied for it)).

A lot of monkey business goes on behind the scenes here, but it boils down to MO Scioly being a grossly understaffed organization that cannot be propped up by STL county, CoMo, KC, and a few other scattered volunteers alone. There are enough coaches with advancing teams to supervise all of the events halfway decently wherein a volunteer conscription system would not resolve this problem but greatly improve it.

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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby JVallurup47 » April 29th, 2018, 7:44 pm

dxu46 wrote:
JVallurup47 wrote:
Magikarpmaster629 wrote:I heard the audience was really rude about this- cheering when Ladue got second, and cheering even more when they heard it was just one point.


Not everyone was given thermometers. I don't see why they couldn't have just graded the test portion and not the build? Throwing out events is very uncommon for Missouri states, when there are constantly poor events run without throwing them out (see: Hydrogeology 2017 when I won the event because it was the Geologic Mapping test from the year before (although I didn't actually do Geomapping at competition besides that time I just studied for it)).


Another thing I heard was that ladue brought graphing calculators in many events that they weren’t allowed to. In optics they brought three graphing calcs instead of two.

Yeah, I kinda warned them, but...at least they didn't get disqualified ;)
Also apparently some of my teammates are saying that Wydown cheated in Hovercraft by having shielding or whatever? Can you confirm/deny?


Wydown didn't cheat. Our hovercraft failed! The only reason we got third was because of the test and the other bonuses.

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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby superpenguin666 » April 30th, 2018, 12:43 pm

Lol what is going on even...
Ladue lost and that's it. Although I knew that we were going to get 2nd in Division C after seeing our lack of medals, I was very surprised to see Division B get 2nd after getting so many 1sts and 2nds. Goes to show that every event counts, and if one person/partnership fails, the team will probably fail as well. It's quite sad; in 20 of the events Ladue got a score of 31, but WIDI and Rollercoaster contributed 39 points.
Well, RIP. Good luck to Pembroke, and hopefully Scioly state won't be on the same day as NSB next year (I had to miss NSB for it, but Ladue High still lost by 13 points) :( .
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby pajobubo » April 30th, 2018, 4:31 pm

dxu46 wrote:
hippo9 wrote:
dxu46 wrote:Yeah, I kinda warned them, but...at least they didn't get disqualified ;)
Also apparently some of my teammates are saying that Wydown cheated in Hovercraft by having shielding or whatever? Can you confirm/deny?

Ok I helped my schools hover team, and shielding is a safety requirementso I don't know how that would be cheating.

Well, I don't know anything about hovercraft so maybe they didn't have shielding? The point is that our hovercraft team was really po'ed


I can deny... my brother built the hovercraft so I saw it undergo its many iterations and I can attest that it did have shielding. I can also attest that’s it was a disaster, much to my disappointment and also entertainment to watch them try and figure out what was wrong with it.

What they might’ve been mad about was that they ripped of the inflated skirt to allow for more lift (which is what finally got it to work after 4 failed runs lmao), but this year it wasn’t a requirement to have an inflated skirt, just last year.

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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby hippo9 » April 30th, 2018, 6:37 pm

pajobubo wrote:
dxu46 wrote:
hippo9 wrote:Ok I helped my schools hover team, and shielding is a safety requirementso I don't know how that would be cheating.

Well, I don't know anything about hovercraft so maybe they didn't have shielding? The point is that our hovercraft team was really po'ed


I can deny... my brother built the hovercraft so I saw it undergo its many iterations and I can attest that it did have shielding. I can also attest that’s it was a disaster, much to my disappointment and also entertainment to watch them try and figure out what was wrong with it.

What they might’ve been mad about was that they ripped of the inflated skirt to allow for more lift (which is what finally got it to work after 4 failed runs lmao), but this year it wasn’t a requirement to have an inflated skirt, just last year.

Yeah there was no skirt requirement, but if they didn't have shielding on the bottom that might be it.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby MattChina » April 30th, 2018, 6:50 pm

JVallurup47 wrote:
dxu46 wrote:
JVallurup47 wrote:
Another thing I heard was that ladue brought graphing calculators in many events that they weren’t allowed to. In optics they brought three graphing calcs instead of two.

Yeah, I kinda warned them, but...at least they didn't get disqualified ;)
Also apparently some of my teammates are saying that Wydown cheated in Hovercraft by having shielding or whatever? Can you confirm/deny?


Wydown didn't cheat. Our hovercraft failed! The only reason we got third was because of the test and the other bonuses.


rlly? that happened to me at regionals but i wouldnt expect it to be possible at states?
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby hippo9 » April 30th, 2018, 6:58 pm

MattChina wrote:
JVallurup47 wrote:
dxu46 wrote:Yeah, I kinda warned them, but...at least they didn't get disqualified ;)
Also apparently some of my teammates are saying that Wydown cheated in Hovercraft by having shielding or whatever? Can you confirm/deny?


Wydown didn't cheat. Our hovercraft failed! The only reason we got third was because of the test and the other bonuses.


rlly? that happened to me at regionals but i wouldnt expect it to be possible at states?

Yeah you think enough working hovercrafts would make that impossible.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby MattChina » April 30th, 2018, 7:03 pm

hippo9 wrote:
MattChina wrote:
JVallurup47 wrote:
Wydown didn't cheat. Our hovercraft failed! The only reason we got third was because of the test and the other bonuses.


rlly? that happened to me at regionals but i wouldnt expect it to be possible at states?

Yeah you think enough working hovercrafts would make that impossible.


probably the test was rlly hard
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby hippo9 » April 30th, 2018, 7:06 pm

MattChina wrote:
hippo9 wrote:
MattChina wrote:
rlly? that happened to me at regionals but i wouldnt expect it to be possible at states?

Yeah you think enough working hovercrafts would make that impossible.


probably the test was rlly hard

Yeah but with the way hover is scored, wouldn't it not matter that much because teams would still get somepoints from it.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Postby JVallurup47 » April 30th, 2018, 8:37 pm

hippo9 wrote:
MattChina wrote:
hippo9 wrote:Yeah you think enough working hovercrafts would make that impossible.


probably the test was rlly hard

Yeah but with the way hover is scored, wouldn't it not matter that much because teams would still get somepoints from it.


We got a near perfect score on the hover craft test.


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