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Re: Missouri 2018

Post by Alex-RCHS » April 29th, 2018, 10:04 am

pajobubo wrote:What happened, happened already, lets not dwell over that too much.
When someone says this in an internet argument they are almost always wrong.

Taunting a hardworking team just because they typically win is rude and against the spirit of Science Olympiad. Those people should be ashamed.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Post by TheChiScientist » April 29th, 2018, 11:58 am

Wow. I go to the Chi for one day and all of this happens? It's a shame about Ladue... One point... I feel ya. :(
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Re: Missouri 2018

Post by EastStroudsburg13 » April 29th, 2018, 12:17 pm

JVallurup47 wrote: Everyone was booing ladue because you guys win every year. Also, in some of your build events you guys use very interesting strategies that are kind of bending the rules, and everyone knows about this. In towers you made a really light tower and you depended on just holding the bucket and abusing the bonus.

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This is kinda disappointing to hear. That's a valid Towers strategy, and regardless of people's strategies, there is never any reason to boo another team. That's really unfortunate and the MO state director should have called out anyone who booed. That's not sportsmanlike at all.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Post by TheChiScientist » April 29th, 2018, 12:23 pm

EastStroudsburg13 wrote:This is kinda disappointing to hear. That's a valid Towers strategy, and regardless of people's strategies, there is never any reason to boo another team. That's really unfortunate and the MO state director should have called out anyone who booed. That's not sportsmanlike at all.
I agree on that but I can relate to the people that booed. Stevenson and NT have won the ISO Nats bids for the past 9 years and people are starting get tired of it. Clearly, there will be dislike but it still does not justify this. :roll: In the end, they are still people that got lucky to be on a Nats qualifying team. (Although people would like to see things shake up a bit) :D
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Re: Missouri 2018

Post by JVallurup47 » April 29th, 2018, 5:44 pm

Magikarpmaster629 wrote:
hippo9 wrote:
dxu46 wrote:Some random facts:
  • Pembroke High beat Ladue High by 13 points (61-74) while the middle schools had 69-70 - one point
One point, just wow....
I heard the audience was really rude about this- cheering when Ladue got second, and cheering even more when they heard it was just one point.
pajobubo wrote: Kinda interested as to why Thermo got thrown out, what happened in the room and why they thought it was serious enough to toss it. It’s not like tossing events isn’t common, but still interesting to get the full scoop.
Not everyone was given thermometers. I don't see why they couldn't have just graded the test portion and not the build? Throwing out events is very uncommon for Missouri states, when there are constantly poor events run without throwing them out (see: Hydrogeology 2017 when I won the event because it was the Geologic Mapping test from the year before (although I didn't actually do Geomapping at competition besides that time I just studied for it)).
Another thing I heard was that ladue brought graphing calculators in many events that they weren’t allowed to. In optics they brought three graphing calcs instead of two.

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Re: Missouri 2018

Post by dxu46 » April 29th, 2018, 6:15 pm

JVallurup47 wrote:
Magikarpmaster629 wrote:
hippo9 wrote: One point, just wow....
I heard the audience was really rude about this- cheering when Ladue got second, and cheering even more when they heard it was just one point.
pajobubo wrote: Kinda interested as to why Thermo got thrown out, what happened in the room and why they thought it was serious enough to toss it. It’s not like tossing events isn’t common, but still interesting to get the full scoop.
Not everyone was given thermometers. I don't see why they couldn't have just graded the test portion and not the build? Throwing out events is very uncommon for Missouri states, when there are constantly poor events run without throwing them out (see: Hydrogeology 2017 when I won the event because it was the Geologic Mapping test from the year before (although I didn't actually do Geomapping at competition besides that time I just studied for it)).
Another thing I heard was that ladue brought graphing calculators in many events that they weren’t allowed to. In optics they brought three graphing calcs instead of two.
Yeah, I kinda warned them, but...at least they didn't get disqualified ;)
Also apparently some of my teammates are saying that Wydown cheated in Hovercraft by having shielding or whatever? Can you confirm/deny?

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Re: Missouri 2018

Post by hippo9 » April 29th, 2018, 6:21 pm

dxu46 wrote:
JVallurup47 wrote:
Magikarpmaster629 wrote: I heard the audience was really rude about this- cheering when Ladue got second, and cheering even more when they heard it was just one point.


Not everyone was given thermometers. I don't see why they couldn't have just graded the test portion and not the build? Throwing out events is very uncommon for Missouri states, when there are constantly poor events run without throwing them out (see: Hydrogeology 2017 when I won the event because it was the Geologic Mapping test from the year before (although I didn't actually do Geomapping at competition besides that time I just studied for it)).
Another thing I heard was that ladue brought graphing calculators in many events that they weren’t allowed to. In optics they brought three graphing calcs instead of two.
Yeah, I kinda warned them, but...at least they didn't get disqualified ;)
Also apparently some of my teammates are saying that Wydown cheated in Hovercraft by having shielding or whatever? Can you confirm/deny?
Ok I helped my schools hover team, and shielding is a safety requirementso I don't know how that would be cheating.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Post by dxu46 » April 29th, 2018, 6:28 pm

hippo9 wrote:
dxu46 wrote:
JVallurup47 wrote:
Another thing I heard was that ladue brought graphing calculators in many events that they weren’t allowed to. In optics they brought three graphing calcs instead of two.
Yeah, I kinda warned them, but...at least they didn't get disqualified ;)
Also apparently some of my teammates are saying that Wydown cheated in Hovercraft by having shielding or whatever? Can you confirm/deny?
Ok I helped my schools hover team, and shielding is a safety requirementso I don't know how that would be cheating.
Well, I don't know anything about hovercraft so maybe they didn't have shielding? The point is that our hovercraft team was really po'ed

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Re: Missouri 2018

Post by hippo9 » April 29th, 2018, 6:39 pm

dxu46 wrote:
hippo9 wrote:
dxu46 wrote: Yeah, I kinda warned them, but...at least they didn't get disqualified ;)
Also apparently some of my teammates are saying that Wydown cheated in Hovercraft by having shielding or whatever? Can you confirm/deny?
Ok I helped my schools hover team, and shielding is a safety requirementso I don't know how that would be cheating.
Well, I don't know anything about hovercraft so maybe they didn't have shielding? The point is that our hovercraft team was really po'ed
Yeah not having shielding would be a major issue, but it would be a safety concern mainly, and I don't think it would really give them much of an edge.
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Re: Missouri 2018

Post by Skink » April 29th, 2018, 7:43 pm

Magikarpmaster629 wrote:Not everyone was given thermometers. I don't see why they couldn't have just graded the test portion and not the build? Throwing out events is very uncommon for Missouri states, when there are constantly poor events run without throwing them out (see: Hydrogeology 2017 when I won the event because it was the Geologic Mapping test from the year before (although I didn't actually do Geomapping at competition besides that time I just studied for it)).
A lot of monkey business goes on behind the scenes here, but it boils down to MO Scioly being a grossly understaffed organization that cannot be propped up by STL county, CoMo, KC, and a few other scattered volunteers alone. There are enough coaches with advancing teams to supervise all of the events halfway decently wherein a volunteer conscription system would not resolve this problem but greatly improve it.

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