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Re: State Tournament Results

Post by Matholy » March 27th, 2018, 7:47 pm

windu34 wrote:Florida B

1. River City Science Academy (167) - qualifies for the National Tournament
2. Archimedean Middle Conservatory (172) - potentially qualifies for the National Tournament
3. Orlando Science School (186)
4. Heritage Middle School (240)
5. Morgan Fitzgerald Middle School (250)

Florida C

1. Archimedean Upper Conservatory (113) - qualifies for the National Tournament
2. Boca Raton Community High School Team 1 (145) - potentially qualifies for the National Tournament
3. Orlando Science School (173)
4. Boca Raton Community High School Team 2 (212)
5. Cardinal Gibbons High School (233)
Why "potentially"?

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Re: State Tournament Results

Post by pikachu4919 » March 27th, 2018, 8:52 pm

Matholy wrote:
windu34 wrote:Florida B

1. River City Science Academy (167) - qualifies for the National Tournament
2. Archimedean Middle Conservatory (172) - potentially qualifies for the National Tournament
3. Orlando Science School (186)
4. Heritage Middle School (240)
5. Morgan Fitzgerald Middle School (250)

Florida C

1. Archimedean Upper Conservatory (113) - qualifies for the National Tournament
2. Boca Raton Community High School Team 1 (145) - potentially qualifies for the National Tournament
3. Orlando Science School (173)
4. Boca Raton Community High School Team 2 (212)
5. Cardinal Gibbons High School (233)
Why "potentially"?
As I explained in the Indiana 2018 thread, the way national bids work is that there are 60 total, and all 50 states are automatically entitled to one bid per Division if they have registered teams in either one or both Divisions. The remaining are redistributed to the states with the highest number of registered teams, and these numbers are also separated by Division. For example, if only 47 states have SciOly teams in Division C, then there are 13 more bids that are then given as second bids to the top 13 states by number of Division C teams registered, but it's then possible that at the same time, there may be only 45 states with SciOly teams in Division B, in which then the top 15 states by number of Division B teams registered will receive second bids. That means that if all 50 states have SciOly teams registered, for either of the Divisions, then only 10 more bids are redistributed as second bids.

Going back to "potentially," Vermont has decided to start Science Olympiad in some of their high schools, and thus, their state is getting a bid in Division C (I've heard that they're not claiming a bid for Division B, but I'm not for sure on that). That means one less state will have a second bid in Division C, and windu is implying with "potentially" that it could be Florida that may lose its second bid, in which, the second place teams will not get to compete at Nationals (though based on the most recent data on number of participating teams, Missouri is probably more in danger of losing its second bid than Florida is...we'll have to see). This happened to Indiana in 2015 when West Virginia started having registered SciOly teams (I remember because we won second at State that year and apparently didn't get the memo that Indiana's second nats bid had been cut until after awards. You can imagine how salty I still am at that :P).
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Re: State Tournament Results

Post by Matholy » March 28th, 2018, 4:27 am

pikachu4919 wrote:
Matholy wrote:
windu34 wrote:Florida B

1. River City Science Academy (167) - qualifies for the National Tournament
2. Archimedean Middle Conservatory (172) - potentially qualifies for the National Tournament
3. Orlando Science School (186)
4. Heritage Middle School (240)
5. Morgan Fitzgerald Middle School (250)

Florida C

1. Archimedean Upper Conservatory (113) - qualifies for the National Tournament
2. Boca Raton Community High School Team 1 (145) - potentially qualifies for the National Tournament
3. Orlando Science School (173)
4. Boca Raton Community High School Team 2 (212)
5. Cardinal Gibbons High School (233)
Why "potentially"?
As I explained in the Indiana 2018 thread, the way national bids work is that there are 60 total, and all 50 states are automatically entitled to one bid per Division if they have registered teams in either one or both Divisions. The remaining are redistributed to the states with the highest number of registered teams, and these numbers are also separated by Division. For example, if only 47 states have SciOly teams in Division C, then there are 13 more bids that are then given as second bids to the top 13 states by number of Division C teams registered, but it's then possible that at the same time, there may be only 45 states with SciOly teams in Division B, in which then the top 15 states by number of Division B teams registered will receive second bids. That means that if all 50 states have SciOly teams registered, for either of the Divisions, then only 10 more bids are redistributed as second bids.

Going back to "potentially," Vermont has decided to start Science Olympiad in some of their high schools, and thus, their state is getting a bid in Division C (I've heard that they're not claiming a bid for Division B, but I'm not for sure on that). That means one less state will have a second bid in Division C, and windu is implying with "potentially" that it could be Florida that may lose its second bid, in which, the second place teams will not get to compete at Nationals (though based on the most recent data on number of participating teams, Missouri is probably more in danger of losing its second bid than Florida is...we'll have to see). This happened to Indiana in 2015 when West Virginia started having registered SciOly teams (I remember because we won second at State that year and apparently didn't get the memo that Indiana's second nats bid had been cut until after awards. You can imagine how salty I still am at that :P).
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Missouri had 208 and Florida has 243 teamsboth in 2017, so it's probably going to be Missouri.

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Re: State Tournament Results

Post by Unome » March 28th, 2018, 4:48 am

Matholy wrote:
pikachu4919 wrote:
Matholy wrote: Why "potentially"?
As I explained in the Indiana 2018 thread, the way national bids work is that there are 60 total, and all 50 states are automatically entitled to one bid per Division if they have registered teams in either one or both Divisions. The remaining are redistributed to the states with the highest number of registered teams, and these numbers are also separated by Division. For example, if only 47 states have SciOly teams in Division C, then there are 13 more bids that are then given as second bids to the top 13 states by number of Division C teams registered, but it's then possible that at the same time, there may be only 45 states with SciOly teams in Division B, in which then the top 15 states by number of Division B teams registered will receive second bids. That means that if all 50 states have SciOly teams registered, for either of the Divisions, then only 10 more bids are redistributed as second bids.

Going back to "potentially," Vermont has decided to start Science Olympiad in some of their high schools, and thus, their state is getting a bid in Division C (I've heard that they're not claiming a bid for Division B, but I'm not for sure on that). That means one less state will have a second bid in Division C, and windu is implying with "potentially" that it could be Florida that may lose its second bid, in which, the second place teams will not get to compete at Nationals (though based on the most recent data on number of participating teams, Missouri is probably more in danger of losing its second bid than Florida is...we'll have to see). This happened to Indiana in 2015 when West Virginia started having registered SciOly teams (I remember because we won second at State that year and apparently didn't get the memo that Indiana's second nats bid had been cut until after awards. You can imagine how salty I still am at that :P).
oh yeah..
https://scioly.org/wiki/index.php/Numbe ... _per_State
Missouri had 208 and Florida has 243 teamsboth in 2017, so it's probably going to be Missouri.
Note that the determination is made by comparing the numbers in each division separately. As of this year Florida has something like 100 B and 150 C (per regional scoresheets - I counted because Georgia has a chance of being affected by this as well).
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Re: State Tournament Results

Post by cool hand luke » March 28th, 2018, 8:38 am

where do you get the numbers per state?

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Re: State Tournament Results

Post by Unome » March 28th, 2018, 8:42 am

cool hand luke wrote:where do you get the numbers per state?
There's a map published around the end of each year.
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Wyoming 2018

Post by Killboe » March 29th, 2018, 7:36 am

Wyoming 2018
1. Riverton MS Team 1 Qualifies for 2018 National Tournament
2. Riverton MS Team 2


Results aren't posted on state website yet, so 3rd through the rest are unknown for now.
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Re: State Tournament Results

Post by hippo9 » March 29th, 2018, 8:58 am

I don't know the participation situation in Wyoming, but since when can schools send two teams to a state tournament?
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Re: State Tournament Results

Post by John Richardsim » March 29th, 2018, 9:01 am

hippo9 wrote:I don't know the participation situation in Wyoming, but since when can schools send two teams to a state tournament?
It's up to state organizations whether schools can send multiple teams to state competitions.
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Re: State Tournament Results

Post by Tailsfan101 » March 29th, 2018, 10:30 am

hippo9 wrote:I don't know the participation situation in Wyoming, but since when can schools send two teams to a state tournament?
I've noticed that in smaller states, it is very common for schools to send multiple teams to a state tournament. Take Idaho, for example. Last year, St. Joseph's Catholic School sent five teams to state. Many other schools had 2-3 teams as well.
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