2018 National Tournament: Colorado State University

[kenniky]

What is the address? And has Stanford or MIT held a national? Just wondering.

Neither Stanford nor MIT have ever hosted a National tournament. Source

Why don't they?

MIT just started hosting tournaments about 3 years ago, and Stanford started last year

[chalker]

Neither Stanford nor MIT have ever hosted a National tournament. Source

Why don't they?

MIT just started hosting tournaments about 3 years ago, and Stanford started last year

National Tournaments require a SIGNIFICANT commitment of resources from the host university. It's not like the National Science Olympiad office goes around asking universities to host the event. Rather, universities generally have to submit a proposal to NSO, which means that the highest level of the university administration needs to be involved (typically the president's office). There needs to be a group of extremely committed local folks that can get the ear of the administration to make this happen. It would be wonderful if that would eventually happen at MIT or Stanford.

[whythelongface]

Why don't they?

MIT just started hosting tournaments about 3 years ago, and Stanford started last year

National Tournaments require a SIGNIFICANT commitment of resources from the host university. It's not like the National Science Olympiad office goes around asking universities to host the event. Rather, universities generally have to submit a proposal to NSO, which means that the highest level of the university administration needs to be involved (typically the president's office). There needs to be a group of extremely committed local folks that can get the ear of the administration to make this happen. It would be wonderful if that would eventually happen at MIT or Stanford.

I mean, it seems that Cornell has already managed to make this happen, so I still have high hopes.

[Unome]

MIT just started hosting tournaments about 3 years ago, and Stanford started last year

National Tournaments require a SIGNIFICANT commitment of resources from the host university. It's not like the National Science Olympiad office goes around asking universities to host the event. Rather, universities generally have to submit a proposal to NSO, which means that the highest level of the university administration needs to be involved (typically the president's office). There needs to be a group of extremely committed local folks that can get the ear of the administration to make this happen. It would be wonderful if that would eventually happen at MIT or Stanford.

I mean, it seems that Cornell has already managed to make this happen, so I still have high hopes.

Even so, I doubt Stanford has the capacity to host Nationals (and MIT may not have sufficient capacity for awards). I'm pretty sure a Caltech bid has been deferred in the past for space concerns, and they have a significantly more established organization than either of those two.

Edit: I guess if Juniata could do it Stanford could, but things have become larger since 2004 (and Juniata was only ever a last-minute backup anyway).

[fanjiatian]

Also don't forget that universities like MIT have finals around the same time as Nats. It's already difficult enough (in general) to get administrative permission for running a college invitational during a relatively not busy time of year (winter break / the weeks immediately afterward). Universities tend to not like having tons of young kids running around campus

[antoine_ego]

Also don't forget that universities like MIT have finals around the same time as Nats. It's already difficult enough (in general) to get administrative permission for running a college invitational during a relatively not busy time of year (winter break / the weeks immediately afterward). Universities tend to not like having tons of young kids running around campus

Interestingly enough, Cornell's National Tournament will be 2 weeks later than normal, possibly due to this reason.

[Raven]

Does anyone know if the annoying event conflicts on the nationals schedule will change at all? (i.e. Dynamic x Rocks)

[John Richardsim]

Does anyone know if the annoying event conflicts on the nationals schedule will change at all? (i.e. Dynamic x Rocks)

It's technically possible, though highly unlikely.

[chalker]

Does anyone know if the annoying event conflicts on the nationals schedule will change at all? (i.e. Dynamic x Rocks)

It's technically possible, though highly unlikely.

Correct, I can't recall us ever changing the national schedule after we published it in the rules.

[chalker]

I mean, it seems that Cornell has already managed to make this happen, so I still have high hopes.

Yep, they had a very dedicated group of students that was able to team up with some dedicated staff and convince the administration.

Even so, I doubt Stanford has the capacity to host Nationals (and MIT may not have sufficient capacity for awards). I'm pretty sure a Caltech bid has been deferred in the past for space concerns, and they have a significantly more established organization than either of those two.

Edit: I guess if Juniata could do it Stanford could, but things have become larger since 2004 (and Juniata was only ever a last-minute backup anyway).

We haven't really expanded the size of the tournament in the past 2 decades. Many universities would be more than capable of hosting it. Stanford has a student population of ~16K and a campus that is ~8K acres, which is pretty comparable to Wright State (~17K, ~700 acres). MIT would likely have a space issue though, as it only has ~11K students on ~160 acres).