Unofficial Rankings B

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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby pb5754[] » April 30th, 2018, 2:41 pm

Division B? What's that? jk but i dont know much about Div B...

1. Solon
2. Daniel Wright
3. Beckendorff
4. Kennedy
5. Piedmont
6. Longfellow
7. Meads Mill
8. Community
9. Springhouse
10. Gelinas
11. Tower Heights
12. SSA
13. SAA
14. Slauson
15. Hamilton
16. Thomas Jefferson
17. Jeffery Trail
18. Highlands
19. Pembroke
20. FSA

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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby Koolman » April 30th, 2018, 4:35 pm

Interesting to see Thomas Jefferson quite a bit higher this year :?: :?:

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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby nicksalanitri » May 1st, 2018, 8:17 am

pb5754[] wrote:Division B? What's that? jk but i dont know much about Div B...

1. Solon
2. Daniel Wright
3. Beckendorff
4. Kennedy
5. Piedmont
6. Longfellow
7. Meads Mill
8. Community
9. Springhouse
10. Gelinas
11. Tower Heights
12. SSA
13. SAA
14. Slauson
15. Hamilton
16. Thomas Jefferson
17. Jeffery Trail
18. Highlands
19. Pembroke
20. FSA

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Only thing I see wrong with that is Piedemont that high, I think they'll be around 11th or 12th based on invy results.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby vb » May 1st, 2018, 10:31 am

@EastStroudsburg13 - When is your prediction context for Nationals coming?

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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby hippo9 » May 1st, 2018, 11:02 am

nicksalanitri wrote:
pb5754[] wrote:Division B? What's that? jk but i dont know much about Div B...

1. Solon
2. Daniel Wright
3. Beckendorff
4. Kennedy
5. Piedmont
6. Longfellow
7. Meads Mill
8. Community
9. Springhouse
10. Gelinas
11. Tower Heights
12. SSA
13. SAA
14. Slauson
15. Hamilton
16. Thomas Jefferson
17. Jeffery Trail
18. Highlands
19. Pembroke
20. FSA

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Only thing I see wrong with that is Piedemont that high, I think they'll be around 11th or 12th based on invy results.

TJ won't be that high either I don't think, considering they got 25th last year and had a smaller margin of victory at states this year.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby sciolyperson1 » May 2nd, 2018, 4:39 pm

Do you guys think Daniel Wright will win for the third consecutive year? If not, then who do think will win? If I had to predict, I would say Solon, but idrk.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby pb5754[] » May 2nd, 2018, 4:40 pm

sciolyperson1 wrote:Do you guys think Daniel Wright will win for the third consecutive year? If not, then who do think will win? If I had to predict, I would say Solon, but idrk.

They didn't seem as strong at states this year... yeah I'm predicting Solon as well.

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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby sciolyperson1 » May 2nd, 2018, 4:42 pm

pb5754[] wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:Do you guys think Daniel Wright will win for the third consecutive year? If not, then who do think will win? If I had to predict, I would say Solon, but idrk.

They didn't seem as strong at states this year... yeah I'm predicting Solon as well.


What about Beckendorff? Maybe 2/3?
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'18: Buggy - Towers - WIDI
'19: Buggy - Roller - Mystery - Boomi
'20: Gravity - Boomi - PPP - Detector? - Wright? - WIDI?

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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby Crtomir » May 4th, 2018, 11:21 am

sciolyperson1 wrote:
pb5754[] wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:Do you guys think Daniel Wright will win for the third consecutive year? If not, then who do think will win? If I had to predict, I would say Solon, but idrk.

They didn't seem as strong at states this year... yeah I'm predicting Solon as well.


What about Beckendorff? Maybe 2/3?


Yes. Definitely. I would put Solon first and Beckendorff second.

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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby MadCow2357 » May 7th, 2018, 3:16 am

What about my school?!!! Just kidding, we placed 56th last year... :lol:
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby EastStroudsburg13 » May 8th, 2018, 6:37 pm

Here's the latest edition of my computer's ranking of all 60 teams! There's a limit to its effectiveness, of course, as there are a variety of factors that affect performance the day of. But this is mainly for fun and discussion, so enjoy!

Click for ranking
  1. Daniel Wright
  2. Solon
  3. Beckendorff
  4. Meads Mill
  5. Kennedy
  6. Piedmont
  7. Longfellow
  8. Springhouse
  9. Paul J. Gelinas
  10. Science and Arts Academy
  11. Community
  12. Hamilton
  13. Slauson
  14. Tower Heights
  15. Shady Side Academy
  16. Dodgen
  17. Jeffrey Trail
  18. Howard L. Goff
  19. Chippewa
  20. Thomas Jefferson
  21. Pembroke Hill
  22. Highlands
  23. Preston
  24. A.W. Coolidge
  25. Fred J. Carnage
  26. Fulton Science Academy
  27. Kealing
  28. Auburn
  29. North Bethesda
  30. H.B. duPont
  31. Ames
  32. Archimedean Middle
  33. Meyzeek
  34. Cedar Springs Homeschool
  35. Evergreen
  36. Bellevue Mission
  37. Pleasant Ridge
  38. Bedford
  39. Casady
  40. River City Science Academy
  41. Fairfield
  42. Stoller
  43. Albuquerque Area Home Schoolers
  44. Wachter
  45. Hyde Park
  46. Clinton
  47. Treasure Valley Home School
  48. Esperero Canyon
  49. C.R. Anderson
  50. Yankton
  51. St. John Berchmans
  52. Gallagher
  53. Teeland
  54. Germantown
  55. LISA Academy West
  56. Medomak
  57. Riverton
  58. Huntington
  59. Walpole
  60. BASIS Charter


In addition, if you're not happy with where your team (or your state's team) is listed, it might be because I don't have close enough data! Here is the data I am missing:

States Score and Number of Events Run
  • Arizona
  • Arkansas
  • Maryland
  • Massachusetts
  • South Dakota

State Tournament Size, Score, and Number of Events Run
  • Alaska
  • District of Columbia
  • Maine
  • Minnesota
  • Oklahoma
  • Oregon
  • West Virginia
  • Wyoming
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby dxu46 » May 8th, 2018, 6:50 pm

Questions:
  • Why is SAA so high? 10th is kind of pushing it...
  • Why is Pembroke so high? The last time they went to nationals, they got 27th IIRC, why would they improve after barely winning states (sorry if I sound salty it's bc I am)
  • Why is River City so low? They did win states, but they are a 1st time team, but I think 40th is a little too low, maybe high 20s and low 30s

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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby sciolyperson1 » May 8th, 2018, 7:00 pm

EastStroudsburg13 wrote:Here's the latest edition of my computer's ranking of all 60 teams! There's a limit to its effectiveness, of course, as there are a variety of factors that affect performance the day of. But this is mainly for fun and discussion, so enjoy!

Click for ranking
  1. Daniel Wright
  2. Solon
  3. Beckendorff
  4. Meads Mill
  5. Kennedy
  6. Piedmont
  7. Longfellow
  8. Springhouse
  9. Paul J. Gelinas
  10. Science and Arts Academy
  11. Community
  12. Hamilton
  13. Slauson
  14. Tower Heights
  15. Shady Side Academy
  16. Dodgen
  17. Jeffrey Trail
  18. Howard L. Goff
  19. Chippewa
  20. Thomas Jefferson
  21. Pembroke Hill
  22. Highlands
  23. Preston
  24. A.W. Coolidge
  25. Fred J. Carnage
  26. Fulton Science Academy
  27. Kealing
  28. Auburn
  29. Ames
  30. North Bethesda
  31. H.B. duPont
  32. Archimedean Middle
  33. Meyzeek
  34. Cedar Springs Homeschool
  35. Evergreen
  36. Bellevue Mission
  37. Pleasant Ridge
  38. Bedford
  39. Casady
  40. River City Science Academy
  41. Fairfield
  42. Stoller
  43. Albuquerque Area Home Schoolers
  44. Wachter
  45. Hyde Park
  46. Clinton
  47. Treasure Valley Home School
  48. Esperero Canyon
  49. C.R. Anderson
  50. Yankton
  51. St. John Berchmans
  52. Gallagher
  53. Teeland
  54. Germantown
  55. LISA Academy West
  56. Medomak
  57. Riverton
  58. Huntington
  59. Walpole
  60. BASIS Charter


In addition, if you're not happy with where your team (or your state's team) is listed, it might be because I don't have close enough data! Here is the data I am missing:

States Score Only
  • Arizona
  • Arkansas
  • Iowa
  • Maryland
  • Massachusetts
  • South Dakota

State Tournament Size and Score
  • Alaska
  • District of Columbia
  • Hawaii
  • Maine
  • Minnesota
  • Nevada
  • Oklahoma
  • Oregon
  • West Virginia
  • Wyoming

Piedmont is always too high on predictions. :)
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Team (Nats) - 3rd '18, '19
Mystery - 3rd '19
Buggy - 4th '19, 5th '18
Mission - 3rd '17


'17: Scrambler - Towers - Mission
'18: Buggy - Towers - WIDI
'19: Buggy - Roller - Mystery - Boomi
'20: Gravity - Boomi - PPP - Detector? - Wright? - WIDI?

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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby EastStroudsburg13 » May 8th, 2018, 7:02 pm

dxu46 wrote:Questions:
  • Why is SAA so high? 10th is kind of pushing it...
  • Why is Pembroke so high? The last time they went to nationals, they got 27th IIRC, why would they improve after barely winning states (sorry if I sound salty it's bc I am)
  • Why is River City so low? They did win states, but they are a 1st time team, but I think 40th is a little too low, maybe high 20s and low 30s

  • I personally agree 10th is high. They're definitely closer to 11th than 9th in the rankings, so I would likely put them 12th or 13th in my personal rankings. But their state score is quite impressive, and the history of Illinois helps SAA in this regard.
  • The tier of teams in the 21-30 range is pretty wide open, and the algorithm does not consider the margin of victory, and only the point total, which in this case is 72 (adjusted to fit 23 events) in a tournament of 31 teams. That's pretty impressive, and while 21st may be a bit high, the uper half of the 20s is not a huge stretch.
  • This is where past history comes into play. While River City won, their score itself was not necessarily one of the stronger finishes. Add in the fact that historically, Florida B teams have hovered around the 40s anyway, and 40th seems pretty reasonable to me for a first-time team from the state.

sciolyperson1 wrote:Piedmont is always too high on predictions. :)

Except last year when my algorithm had them 7th. ;)
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Re: Unofficial Rankings B

Postby Unome » May 8th, 2018, 7:24 pm

EastStroudsburg13 wrote:
sciolyperson1 wrote:Piedmont is always too high on predictions. :)

Except last year when my algorithm had them 7th. ;)

This is really interesting. I can't think of anything that would warrant your program ranking them so highly, especially after they did so poorly at state.

Reminds me - does your formula take into account the number of gold medals at state?
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