Unofficial Rankings C

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Unofficial Rankings C

Postby Unome » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:51 pm

Likewise for C, it's about time to start these up,

Have fun tearing apart my predictions!

1. Troy
2. Mason
3. Solon
4. Harriton
5. Mounds View
6. LASA
7. Seven Lakes
8. Stevenson
9. Northville
10. Mira Loma
11. Acton-Boxborough
12. Columbia
13. New Trier
14. WW-P North
15. Carmel
16. Conestoga
17. Grand Haven
18. Chattahoochee
19. Enloe
20. Clark (hype!)
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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby John Richardsim » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:05 pm

Unome wrote:Likewise for C, it's about time to start these up,

Have fun tearing apart my predictions!

1. Troy
2. Mason
3. Solon
4. Harriton
5. Mounds View
6. LASA
7. Seven Lakes
8. Stevenson
9. Northville
10. Mira Loma
11. Acton-Boxborough
12. Columbia
13. New Trier
14. WW-P North
15. Carmel
16. Conestoga
17. Grand Haven
18. Chattahoochee
19. Enloe
20. Clark (hype!)

Hmmm, I was wondering if you hid Fayetteville-Manlius in tiny font somewhere in there, but now I see that you have not.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby GoldenKnight1 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:09 pm

John Richardsim wrote:
Unome wrote:Likewise for C, it's about time to start these up,

Have fun tearing apart my predictions!

1. Troy
2. Mason
3. Solon
4. Harriton
5. Mounds View
6. LASA
7. Seven Lakes
8. Stevenson
9. Northville
10. Mira Loma
11. Acton-Boxborough
12. Columbia
13. New Trier
14. WW-P North
15. Carmel
16. Conestoga
17. Grand Haven
18. Chattahoochee
19. Enloe
20. Clark (hype!)

Hmmm, I was wondering if you hid Fayetteville-Manlius in tiny font somewhere in there, but now I see that you have not.


I was wondering why Lower Merion was not getting more love vs. Conestoga.

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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby Unome » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:22 pm

GoldenKnight1 wrote:
John Richardsim wrote:
Unome wrote:Likewise for C, it's about time to start these up,

Have fun tearing apart my predictions!

1. Troy
2. Mason
3. Solon
4. Harriton
5. Mounds View
6. LASA
7. Seven Lakes
8. Stevenson
9. Northville
10. Mira Loma
11. Acton-Boxborough
12. Columbia
13. New Trier
14. WW-P North
15. Carmel
16. Conestoga
17. Grand Haven
18. Chattahoochee
19. Enloe
20. Clark (hype!)

Hmmm, I was wondering if you hid Fayetteville-Manlius in tiny font somewhere in there, but now I see that you have not.


I was wondering why Lower Merion was not getting more love vs. Conestoga.

I actually completely forgot about F-M...

Conestoga vs. Lower Merion is intentional. Historically the third place team at regionals seems to be the best non-Harriton bet to qualify (not that there's much reason to choose any of LM, Stoga, or Rustin over each other).

1. Troy
2. Mason
3. Solon
4. Harriton
5. Mounds View
6. LASA
7. Seven Lakes
8. Stevenson
9. Northville
10. Mira Loma
11. Acton-Boxborough
12. Columbia
13. New Trier
14. WW-P North
15. Fayetteville-Manlius
16. Carmel
17. Conestoga
18. Grand Haven
19. Chattahoochee
20. Enloe
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Postby EastStroudsburg13 » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:19 pm

My gut still tells me the order behind Harriton will be Rustin, LM, Stoga, first because 4th to 2nd would be the most SEPA C thing ever, and because Rustin and LM showed a little more upside in invitational season to me than Stoga. Plus, by now, Rustin has staked a nice little recent claim to the second spot. Despite a strong regional result, I still see Penncrest as quite a long shot to jump to 2nd.

I will try to compile rankings myself soon; however, I think I'm gonna throw out a ranking for everyone regardless of state, just for fun, and bold the teams that I think will actually make nationals.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby dcrxcode » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:41 pm

Unome wrote:1. Troy
2. Mason
3. Solon
4. Harriton
5. Mounds View
6. LASA
7. Seven Lakes
8. Stevenson
9. Northville
10. Mira Loma
11. Acton-Boxborough
12. Columbia
13. New Trier
14. WW-P North
15. Fayetteville-Manlius
16. Carmel
17. Conestoga
18. Grand Haven
19. Chattahoochee
20. Enloe


Interested in why Mounds View is super high? Just the ridiculously good state results? I think the 7-12 slots will have a bunch of shake-up. Also Chattahoochee seems low, but obviously you know a lot about them.

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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby Unome » Wed Mar 21, 2018 12:34 am

dcrxcode wrote:
Unome wrote:1. Troy
2. Mason
3. Solon
4. Harriton
5. Mounds View
6. LASA
7. Seven Lakes
8. Stevenson
9. Northville
10. Mira Loma
11. Acton-Boxborough
12. Columbia
13. New Trier
14. WW-P North
15. Fayetteville-Manlius
16. Carmel
17. Conestoga
18. Grand Haven
19. Chattahoochee
20. Enloe


Interested in why Mounds View is super high? Just the ridiculously good state results? I think the 7-12 slots will have a bunch of shake-up. Also Chattahoochee seems low, but obviously you know a lot about them.

I've watched Mounds View enough to notice that they're likely to have a strong year this year. As for us, if we can keep Forensics and WIDI out of the 50s as they have been several times in the last two years we might break 500, but we're going to need significant improvement to go much beyond that. A lot of people on the team seem to not realize how competitive Nationals is (though hopefully MIT was a good lesson).
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Postby TheChiScientist » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:00 pm

I am currently out of the loop but how many states are actually left to qualify? (I know ISO is one ;) )
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Postby EastStroudsburg13 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 1:37 pm

Based on the Colorado State University 2018 Wiki, there are 37 state tournaments remaining in both divisions, out of 50 B division tournaments and 51 C division tournaments (counting NorCal and SoCal as different tournaments).
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Postby pb5754[] » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:05 pm

EastStroudsburg13 wrote:Based on the Colorado State University 2018 Wiki, there are 37 state tournaments remaining in both divisions, out of 50 B division tournaments and 51 C division tournaments (counting NorCal and SoCal as different tournaments).

Why is it 50 B and 51 C?
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Postby EastStroudsburg13 » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:10 pm

Vermont is sending a C champion this year, but no B champion.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby pikachu4919 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:22 pm

I've never made predictions for nats before but maybe I'll take a stab this year! I'm also a busy college student that doesn't have time to overanalyze results besides the ones I've seen around a lot, so they may also be extremely off

1. Troy
2. Harriton
3. [OH 1]
4. [TX 1]
5. [OH 2]
6. [TX 2]
7. Mounds View
8. Mira Loma
9. Northville
10. IL Stevenson
11. Columbia
12. Acton Boxborough
13. New Trier
14. Fayetteville-Manlius
15. Carmel
16. WWPN
17. [PA 2]
18. Ladue
19. Chattahoochee
20. Camas (hype!)

I currently think [OH 1] and [OH 2] will be Solon and Mason, in either order, [TX 1] and [TX 2] will be LASA and Seven Lakes, in either order, and PA 2 will be Rustin. If either [OH 1] or [OH 2] is Mentor, then drop place to 16th and bump everyone else up one.

Well, hey, it puts Carmel in position win the DuPont Enterprise Award this year! We missed it by one point to Fossil Ridge when I went in 2016 >.< if only cell bio and forensics didn't conflict with each other...

I guess the funny thing is that sometimes the DuPont Enterprise Award is hard to predict bc you gotta predict which new team is gonna be the highest one to miss the top 10...

[will probably also post updated predictions when Nats gets closer]
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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby JT880 » Fri Apr 06, 2018 12:54 am

pikachu4919 wrote:I've never made predictions for nats before but maybe I'll take a stab this year! I'm also a busy college student that doesn't have time to overanalyze results besides the ones I've seen around a lot, so they may also be extremely off

1. Troy
2. Harriton
3. [OH 1]
4. [TX 1]
5. [OH 2]
6. [TX 2]
7. Mounds View
8. Mira Loma
9. Northville
10. IL Stevenson
11. Columbia
12. Acton Boxborough
13. New Trier
14. Fayetteville-Manlius
15. Carmel
16. WWPN
17. [PA 2]
18. Ladue
19. Chattahoochee
20. Camas (hype!)

I currently think [OH 1] and [OH 2] will be Solon and Mason, in either order, [TX 1] and [TX 2] will be LASA and Seven Lakes, in either order, and PA 2 will be Rustin. If either [OH 1] or [OH 2] is Mentor, then drop place to 16th and bump everyone else up one.

Well, hey, it puts Carmel in position win the DuPont Enterprise Award this year! We missed it by one point to Fossil Ridge when I went in 2016 >.< if only cell bio and forensics didn't conflict with each other...

I guess the funny thing is that sometimes the DuPont Enterprise Award is hard to predict bc you gotta predict which new team is gonna be the highest one to miss the top 10...

[will probably also post updated predictions when Nats gets closer]

Any updates to this list considering the relatively recent release of the national team numbers?
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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby BigBrown » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:04 pm

IDK anything about the national scene but I wanted to take a stab at it because why not.
1.Troy
2.Solon
3.Mounds view
4. Mason
5. LASA
6. Harrison
7. Stevenson
8. Mira loma
9. Acton-Boxborough
10.New trier
11.WWP-north
12. Northville
13. Grand haven
14. New trier
15. Conestoga
16.Enloe
17. Columbia
18. Brookwood
19. Carmel
20. Hooch

Someone said something about one Texas team? I pretty much just ranked the teams I remember hearing at nats award ceremonies higher or teams that I had previously had contact with. No real methodology

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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby pb5754[] » Fri Apr 06, 2018 5:08 pm

BigBrown wrote:IDK anything about the national scene but I wanted to take a stab at it because why not.
1.Troy
2.Solon
3.Mounds view
4. Mason
5. LASA
6. Harriton
7. Stevenson
8. Mira loma
9. Acton-Boxborough
10.New trier
11.WWP-north
12. Northville
13. Grand haven
14. New trier
15. Conestoga
16.Enloe
17. Columbia
18. Brookwood
19. Carmel
20. Hooch

Someone said something about one Texas team? I pretty much just ranked the teams I remember hearing at nats award ceremonies higher or teams that I had previously had contact with. No real methodology

Um yeah. No way Mounds View will be that high or Harriton that low. I think Brookwood tends to underperform at nats?
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