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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby ScottMaurer19 » April 11th, 2018, 4:32 am

Why would their studying routine be altered specifically for nationals? I don't see why the fact that their state tournament is held late can hinder their performance at nationals if they make it. If they have performed in high quality environments, why would anything change for nationals?
Well put it this way.
Who would do better?
Someone who studied for a test two weeks before the test date or someone in one week?
Most likely the one with two weeks. Same thing happens with teams with early states and later states.

The teams who have a month to prepare might do better than those who are late. But it really depend show the team is.
Well thier mostly (if not the same) events ran at states, why would it make a difference
There is a much different study method for nationals than for previous competitions. If you read the forums last year, many of teams spent time researching and finding tests/material/other study material for events based on the ES for nationals. There is also the expectation that the nationals tests be harder (which is not always true but) and some events have expanded topics for nationals that some ESs may make a larger portion of the event than would be expected.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby shrewdPanther46 » April 11th, 2018, 5:51 am


Well put it this way.
Who would do better?
Someone who studied for a test two weeks before the test date or someone in one week?
Most likely the one with two weeks. Same thing happens with teams with early states and later states.

The teams who have a month to prepare might do better than those who are late. But it really depend show the team is.
Well thier mostly (if not the same) events ran at states, why would it make a difference
There is a much different study method for nationals than for previous competitions. If you read the forums last year, many of teams spent time researching and finding tests/material/other study material for events based on the ES for nationals. There is also the expectation that the nationals tests be harder (which is not always true but) and some events have expanded topics for nationals that some ESs may make a larger portion of the event than would be expected.
How would one identify the ES for a given event? Last year, I didn't know until we got a pamphlet when we arrived and registered.

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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby ScottMaurer19 » April 11th, 2018, 6:45 am


Well thier mostly (if not the same) events ran at states, why would it make a difference
There is a much different study method for nationals than for previous competitions. If you read the forums last year, many of teams spent time researching and finding tests/material/other study material for events based on the ES for nationals. There is also the expectation that the nationals tests be harder (which is not always true but) and some events have expanded topics for nationals that some ESs may make a larger portion of the event than would be expected.
How would one identify the ES for a given event? Last year, I didn't know until we got a pamphlet when we arrived and registered.
Last year they were posted somewhere on the national website or soinc and then someone (one of the mods I believe) put a link in one of the forums
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Herp: 1/4/4
Mission: 1/1/6
Rocks: 1/1/1
Eco: 6/3/9

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Fossils: 1/1/1
GLM: 1/1/1
Herp: 1/1/5
Mission: 1/1/3
WS: 4/1/10

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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby Unome » April 11th, 2018, 7:16 am

There is a much different study method for nationals than for previous competitions. If you read the forums last year, many of teams spent time researching and finding tests/material/other study material for events based on the ES for nationals. There is also the expectation that the nationals tests be harder (which is not always true but) and some events have expanded topics for nationals that some ESs may make a larger portion of the event than would be expected.
How would one identify the ES for a given event? Last year, I didn't know until we got a pamphlet when we arrived and registered.
Last year they were posted somewhere on the national website or soinc and then someone (one of the mods I believe) put a link in one of the forums
I posted the link when they were released Monday before Nationals - although, looking through past lists makes it pretty easy to guess most of them.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby TheChiScientist » April 11th, 2018, 2:39 pm

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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby Unome » April 12th, 2018, 8:22 am

Updated rankings:

1. Troy
2. Harriton
3. Mason
4. Solon
5. Mounds View
6. Mira Loma
7. Stevenson
8. LASA
9. Northville
10. Fayetteville-Manlius
11. Acton-Boxborough
12. New Trier
13. Columbia
14. WW-P North
15. Carmel
16. Grand Haven
17. Camas
18. Brookwood
19. Conestoga
20. Enloe
21. Chattahoochee
22. Pembroke Hill
23. Clark
24. Fossil Ridge
25. Iolani
26. Boca Raton
27. Blue Valley North
28. Archimedean
29. Charter of Wilmington
30. NCSSM
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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby mnoga » April 12th, 2018, 11:58 am

Where is Mountain View, Albany, and Palo Alto? Or are they not on this list because you expect Mira Loma to beat them at NorCal State?

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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby Unome » April 12th, 2018, 12:25 pm

Where is Mountain View, Albany, and Palo Alto? Or are they not on this list because you expect Mira Loma to beat them at NorCal State?
I consider Mira Loma the most likely winner, although I agree that Albany or Mountain View have a chance. I don't think Paly has much of a shot at winning this year.
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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby mnoga » April 12th, 2018, 1:33 pm

The National Tournament should be modified to invite at least a few wildcard teams like Albany or Mountain View. These teams are better than most at Nationals AND by going to Nationals it would give them a better chance to win their state tournament the following year.

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Re: Unofficial Rankings C

Postby pb5754[] » April 12th, 2018, 1:37 pm

The National Tournament should be modified to invite at least a few wildcard teams like Albany or Mountain View. These teams are better than most at Nationals AND by going to Nationals it would give them a better chance to win their state tournament the following year.
The same can be said about teams such as Seven Lakes, Clements, Centerville, Mentor, WWP South, Montgomery, etc.
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