Test flying eliminated?

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Test flying eliminated?

Postby coachchuckaahs » Tue May 01, 2018 3:18 pm

Previously the daily schedule showed test flying at Moby for Heli and Wright Stuff on Friday. Now it does not. No test flying session listed anywhere anymore.

Has testing been eliminated, or is this an oversight?

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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby rfscoach » Tue May 01, 2018 3:27 pm

It had to be intentional, as the only changes on the schedule are removing the test flight times for Wright Stuff and Helicopters and removing the practice times in the Lory Ballrooms.
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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby chalker » Tue May 01, 2018 3:29 pm

I think they are only going to allow test flights on Saturday morning in order to ensure all teams have equal opportunities, regardless of travel schedules.

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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby coachchuckaahs » Tue May 01, 2018 3:32 pm

But even that is not on the schedule!

Having a short test session Saturday morning is always a zoo, unsafe for the aircraft.

Two years ago (Wisc) they had a full morning on Friday. Last year, very small gym, short test session Saturday.

Oh well.

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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby shrewdPanther46 » Tue May 01, 2018 3:33 pm

chalker wrote:I think they are only going to allow test flights on Saturday morning in order to ensure all teams have equal opportunities, regardless of travel schedules.

Do you know if something similar will be incorporated for the vehicle events in the ballroom?
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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby CMS AC » Tue May 01, 2018 3:51 pm

I noticed this like 2 days ago. They probably will let people test though... last year I went very early to the gym when it opened, we got some time to test. Most people are probably going to be worried that something changed on the plane on a bus/plane ride.

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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby coachchuckaahs » Tue May 01, 2018 3:56 pm

But if testing is limited to an hour before competition, it gets pretty hairy in there. In addition, if kids have multiple builds in the same boat, then they must choose to only test one or the other.

I understand the desire to make the level playing field. However, based on prior schedule we arranged our trip to arrive Thursday to make Friday testing a reality.

If testing is limited to an hour Saturday, I do not think it is worth the risk, IMHO. We'll just have to be ready!

Last year the testing was specifically called out on the schedule, with warnings that any testing in the gym at other times woudl be (disqualified or tiered, I don't recall)

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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby Alex-RCHS » Tue May 01, 2018 8:42 pm

shrewdPanther46 wrote:
chalker wrote:I think they are only going to allow test flights on Saturday morning in order to ensure all teams have equal opportunities, regardless of travel schedules.

Do you know if something similar will be incorporated for the vehicle events in the ballroom?

Bump because I'm really interested in knowing this too.
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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby CMS AC » Tue May 01, 2018 10:46 pm

It's the same. Checked the nationals page.

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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby chalker » Wed May 02, 2018 12:28 am

shrewdPanther46 wrote:
chalker wrote:I think they are only going to allow test flights on Saturday morning in order to ensure all teams have equal opportunities, regardless of travel schedules.

Do you know if something similar will be incorporated for the vehicle events in the ballroom?


I'm pretty sure none of the vehicle events will have early practice sessions.

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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby shrewdPanther46 » Wed May 02, 2018 12:36 am

I am a bit curious as to why that is not the case.
What makes it different from WS such that running early practice sessions isn't a valid option?
Please don't misinterpret my intentions, I am simply curious.
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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby sciolyperson1 » Wed May 02, 2018 2:23 am

There are lots of devices out there which are very sensitive to things like different flooring and transportation. Giving teams an option to test the day before is a great way to help promote competitiveness the following day.

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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby knightmoves » Wed May 02, 2018 7:49 pm

sciolyperson1 wrote:There are lots of devices out there which are very sensitive to things like different flooring and transportation. Giving teams an option to test the day before is a great way to help promote competitiveness the following day.


Building a device that has to work on any reasonable floor is a different optimization from building a device to work on a specific floor. It might be fun if after impound, the ES laid down a roll of rubber dance flooring :twisted:

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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby chalker » Wed May 02, 2018 8:01 pm

shrewdPanther46 wrote:I am a bit curious as to why that is not the case.
What makes it different from WS such that running early practice sessions isn't a valid option?
Please don't misinterpret my intentions, I am simply curious.


There are widely differing opinions on the national committee about this. I personally am against the rule and think allowing test runs the morning of is a good idea. However the rules explicitly state no running vehicles on the competition venue surface the day of the tournament, so they want to abide by that.

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Re: Test flying eliminated?

Postby coachchuckaahs » Wed May 02, 2018 8:06 pm

The rules for WS allow flying during the day, not on the clock, at the discretion of the ES. Will that be allowed?

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